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Mac or not?
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Idiophreak wrote: »
Of course you wouldn't need all that stuff, but it would look super-pretty sat on the shelf
Incidentally, something I've never really understood about mac desktops...If you assume that most macs' primary function is for posing and showing off in Starbucks (that's pretty much a given, right?
), surely a non-portable mac is kinda like a chocolate teapot?
It's because you have a mentality that makes such facile assumptions that you never will "understand about mac (sic) desktops".
Busily though you may occupy yourself finding a computer you can buy for less than £300,Idiophreak wrote: »
...pay less than £300 for a brand new notebook?
what you fail to grasp is that in a world that eludes your experience of life there are ordinary people who routinely earn more than that for less than an hour's work.
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/publications/guidance/scco/previous_rates.htm
There are many other professions.
How is it worth the time of such a person to wage a daily war with viruses for the sake of saving £300 on the purchase price of their computer?
Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:
As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
you'd now be better off living in one.
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what you fail to grasp is that in a world that eludes your experience of life there are ordinary people who routinely earn more than that for less than an hour's work.
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How is it worth the time of such a person to wage a daily war with viruses for the sake of saving £300 on the purchase price of their computer?
Lol...OK, you've got me.
If you earn £300/hour you're probably past caring whether you get value for money, so you're right - you are Apple's key demographic at that point.
As to a "daily war with viruses"...Jesus, dude, how much pr0n do you download!!?0 -
Looks like another f*ckwit who thinks he's better than everyone else because I've got a MAC gets put on ignore then.......don't kid yourself kidda....you know they are over priced inferior machines because you have to buy second hand ones....must feel so good. moron
With such an erudite post, it's hard to know what to say next; what's a MAC? Oh yes, I remember, it's a Media Access Control [address] synonymous with Ethernet, not to be confused with a Mac, short for Macintosh...
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judderman62 wrote: »thank you - that is an excellent and informative post. I am considering at long last moving away from the dreadful microsoft (have entertained the idea for some years) and am weighing up both a linux based box or the top of the range iMac (ouch how expensive :eek::eek::eek:) I am leaning towards the Mac and I too have heard so, so, so many people say that once they got a Mac there is no way they would ever even consider going back to a windows based system - this includes my brother, who switched last year and would not go back and his brother in law's son - who has a degree in IT and works in an IT capacity and does all sorts with his mac and also says no way would he go back. It's difficult, for me, not to be swayed - and oh my god how beautiful are they too (though I see that as a bonus **NOT** my main reason for being drawn)
Glad to be of help. I have an IT degree, work in the IT industry at a reasonable high level (and between clients/meetings I contribute here!), and also moonlight as a designer and pro-photographer, so I have the requirement for both platforms and use them both to their limit quite often - so I can objectively see the good and bad in each (and neither is perfect). Try to wade through the platform wars on here and try them for yourself.
There are often good comparative reviews in PC magazines such as PC Pro too, always worth a read.
I don't see why the aesthetics of a computer shouldn't play a part too, 10 years ago all PCs were beige boxes, it's only after copying other industrial designs that PC makers have cottoned on that design plays a part, and to be fair, Apple have been way ahead, Jonathan Ive's designs have rightly earned many awards - whatever you think of Macs vs PCs, appreciating good design shouldn't be biased. Many people now have PCs in their living room. Presumably these people don't have an ugly TV, or a park bench instead of a sofa. As long as it's just one element and doesn't compromise the power and general system, what's the problem?0 -
Idiophreak wrote: »If you earn £300/hour you're probably past caring whether you get value for money, so you're right - you are Apple's key demographic at that point.
My iMac is three years old, and is running the current version of Mac OS X without any problems. It'll be running the newest version when it's released later this year. And the version after that. The iMac I had before was purchased in 1999. I have saved lots of money over the years by purchasing a decent computer brand as opposed to a box shifter. Forget about the fact it's made by Apple, and just look at it as what it is: a computer. I know people who purchase the cheapest computer they can find, and then have to buy a new one every couple of years. They obviously have more money to spend than I do.
I had a look on eBay the other day, just out of interest, and I could sell my current iMac for £500. So, if I were so inclined, I could get a brand new iMac, and it would cost me £450, or about £300 if I asked a friend to use his student discount.
There's a lot more to the concept of value for money than a list of specs. I would have thought frequenting this site would have encouraged you to look into the long-term costs involved in something as opposed to solely the up-front costs, but apparently you missed that bit.
Oh well. I have a wonderful computer, and I save money. That's all I really care about.0 -
we have one of those mini macs and it really is great. i think ive said before it simply works the way its supposed to.
all my other pcs and laptops are microsoft, its always update here, patch there, and everytime you update, the thing runs a little bit slower! im not bogged down with viruses, but the threat of them means we have so many updates the pc cant function. and dual core is a joke, still takes ages to do 2 things at once!
used microsoft for 10 years, used mac for 2 months and its like comparing driving a 20 year old astra to a jaguar. sure they do the same thing, but you would never go back after you tasted perfection!Target Savings by end 2009: 20,000
current savings: 20,500 (target hit yippee!)
Debts: 8000 (student loan so doesnt count)
new target savings by Feb 2010: 30,0000 -
its always update here, patch there, and everytime you update, the thing runs a little bit slower! im not bogged down with viruses, but the threat of them means we have so many updates the pc cant function. and dual core is a joke, still takes ages to do 2 things at once!
Updates don't cause computers to run slow, poor maintenance and poor configuration do.0 -
Updates don't cause computers to run slow, poor maintenance and poor configuration do.
You shouldn't need to have a Computer Sciences Degree to get your computer to work properly.
If you need to perform maintenance and configure it so it'll run properly, then it's both badly designed and badly implemented.
The levels of mediocrity some are prepared to accept is pretty amazing.0 -
Updates don't cause computers to run slow, poor maintenance and poor configuration do.
The point is, anewhope, that you enjoy tinkering about under the bonnet with the intricacies of Windows. Which is fine, for you.
But many other people, who aren't employed in IT, just want to use their computer and get on with work instead of constantly fiddling about with the thing and protecting it from the onslaughts of malware.
That is the difference.
Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:
As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
you'd now be better off living in one.
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You shouldn't need to have a Computer Sciences Degree to get your computer to work properly.
No one suggested they should, nor was I making a statement about any specific platformIf you need to perform maintenance and configure it so it'll run properly, then it's both badly designed and badly implemented.
By that logic, all servers are badly designed and badly implemented..
What someone chooses to do with their computer is entirely their own choice, but it doesn't necessarily mean the choice they've made is the right one.The levels of mediocrity some are prepared to accept is pretty amazing.
It is, isn't it?0
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