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Zagu

macaque wrote: »

Where is the real threat though? Over the last few years, NHS hospitals have been responsible for far more deaths in the UK than terrorists can claim throughout developed world.

What a thoroughly ridiculous comparison.

Cognitive thinking and MSE boards seem to be complete strangers sometimes.

kabayiri

Chew is right. As soon as she took on Max Clifford to publicise her cancer ordeal to gain funds for her kids, I bet he will have warned her that this is a bit like opening the Pandora press box.

chewmylegoff

kabayiri wrote: »

Chew is right. As soon as she took on Max Clifford to publicise her cancer ordeal to gain funds for her kids, I bet he will have warned her that this is a bit like opening the Pandora press box.

possibly, although more likely the only thing he warned her about is how much of the money would be going straight into his bank account.

Mozette

Don't know much about her, don't especially want to. But she's not the first woman to sell whatever she had to benefit her kids, and I doubt she'll be the last.

macaque_2

Zagu wrote: »

What a thoroughly ridiculous comparison.

Cognitive thinking and MSE boards seem to be complete strangers sometimes.

Why ridiculous? Its true.

Congealed blood was smeared on seats in the patients' waiting area, the lavatory floors stank of urine and grime was encrusted on the sinks used by doctors and nurses. Terry Deighton had never seen anything like it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5030012/Staffordshire-hospital-scandal-the-hidden-story.html

Zagu

macaque wrote: »

Why ridiculous? Its true.

Because it's nothing more than a feeble bodycount assessment.

A killed more than B, therefore A is the greater evil?

'Cars killed more than Josef Fritzl, therefore cars are the greater evil.'

How daft does that sound?

amcluesent

>How daft does that sound?<

Humans are hopeless at quantifying risks, and focus on the very rare but spectacular.

• NHS bungling has killed far more patients than Islamic terrorists, but we get all excited about the later.
• Motoring kills far more passengers than going by train, but we hopelessly over-react to the occasional derailment.
• Family members kills many of their children, but we spend endless time worrying about 'stranger danger'.

Politicians then exploit this irrational behaviour to impose ever more state control over our lives, as 'something must be done!". Actually, one good thing about the depression is that there is no money left to pour ££ millions into reducing the off chance that something quite bad may happen.

Zagu

amcluesent wrote: »

NHS bungling has killed far more patients than Islamic terrorists, but we get all excited about the later.

So we should ignore the raison d'être of the NHS, ignore the vast majority of successes that the NHS has, ignore the aims and objectives of the NHS, and instead consider the NHS worse than terrorists, as more die in their care than from terrorist attacks?


This place is boundless.

whathavewedone

It's a pathetic comparison.

The NHS saves far more lives than it takes through negligence. Of course it isn't perfect and mistakes do happen.

Have you ever had to rely on the NHS for anything more than needing antibiotics for an infection? Has anyone close to had their lives saved by the NHS?

I imagine not.

I had a blood clot removed at the age of 4 that would have killed me 5 minutes later.

I've also had 2 children by emergency c section both born healthy.

My father's had a quadruple heart bypass, a perforated ulcer removed that would have killed him in a matter of hours, a stoma operation which put an end to years of suffering with colitis and resulted in the early detection of bowel cancer...all of this between 1995 and 1997 and he received fantastic care throughout.

chewmylegoff

come on, think of all those lives that terrorists save...