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Misery of the BTLers and property developers...

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  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    At least I have a job mate.

    I'd never have guessed, your on here 24/7 :j

    I'm more a weekend sort of guy, sez something :rotfl:
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    mewbie wrote: »
    I have no problem with that. It's the multiple property 'owning' peeps who have actually mortgaged and remortgaged their own family home in order to gamble on a rising property market, that I have difficulty with. "I'm thinking of my children" they say, while risking everything, including the family home.

    I understand that.

    However it's not always fair to paint every BTLer with the same brush. A good friend of mine has a BTL instead of a pension. He did not remortgage the family home to finance it.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    And I'm winning mate:beer:

    the only thing you're winning is the competition to see who can post the most sh!tty smilies.
  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    the only thing you're winning is the competition to see who can post the most sh!tty smilies.
    Mate, don't knock it, I pride myself on the use of the inappropriate smiley:beer:
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    Dan: wrote: »
    However it's not always fair to paint every BTLer with the same brush.
    No. Fun though.
  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    I understand that.

    However it's not always fair to paint every BTLer with the same brush. A good friend of mine has a BTL instead of a pension. He did not remortgage the family home to finance it.

    Fair point mate:beer:

    Gotta go, got mass int he morning :AGood game though, same time next week?:T
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    Fair point mate:beer:

    Gotta go, got mass int he morning :AGood game though, same time next week?:T

    Looking forward to it :beer:
  • chucky
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    Yes, but you are spending a lot of money servicing those properties, especially when you do not have a tennant. It's not all continual profit. You go four months without a tennant, at £500 per month, your £2000 down.

    the maximum void i've ever had is 2 weeks on one of my properties and that was in Feb this year - during this pseudo depression that we're supposed to be in, that's pretty good.

    i always factor in 6-weeks voids when calculating yield

    running costs are important - again these are all factored in. not all properties need repairs every year, but you do get the unusual surprise. the smart move is to repair and restore the properties during low interest rates (like now) to counter any 'extra' profit you could pay tax for due to low interest repayments.
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    Yes, but you are spending a lot of money servicing those properties, especially when you do not have a tennant. It's not all continual profit. You go four months without a tennant, at £500 per month, your £2000 down.

    If the mortgage payments were £200 per month then I would be down £800 over the four month period, not 2 grand. When I get a tennant, It would only take 2.5 months to make up the loss before I start making profit. Thst's the beauty of low interest rates at the moment.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/a98c87f0-1575-11de-b9a9-0000779fd2ac.html

    I don't think we can call the above a politically biased, or with an agenda.

    It's pretty stark out there, for any BTL landlord, no matter how much they ramp up the economy and tell us "I have more money than you sir".
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