the daydream fund challenge thread

choille

If anyone is injured by my livestock I'm liable & people can walk across my ground under the right to roam act - it's not cricket.

Windy today, picking the rest of the blackcurrants before the rain comes. The blackbirds have snaffled my under ripe gooseberries.

RAS

John

If your sister is a member of BBKA, she is insured if this happens. And they would need to prove that the bee was one of hers, which given they fly 2 km is going to be hard.

However, it might be an idea to think about whether the bees currently fly across the neighbour's garden? We have put up a screen that forces the bees to fly above head height. That means that it is almost impossible for a human to get between a bee and its hive when it returns home (if you stand in front of a hive facing it, bees will collect on your back).

One point I would make is that almost everyone we have dealt with thinks:

1. Bumble bees (specificalyy the red tailed and various yellow banded ones) are honey bees.
2. Honey bees are wasps.
3. Hover flies are wasps.
3. Solitary bees are wasps.

So it may be that the neighbour needs to learn what a bee actually looks like first.

lostinrates

choille wrote: »

If anyone is injured by my livestock I'm liable & people can walk across my ground under the right to roam act - it's not cricket.

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I'm strongly geared towards allowing access to the countryside....BUT, choille identifies the issue I've argued a few times here, because its damned true. further you have gate hazards (I don't know why people find it so hard to close a gate they find closed or leave a gate open thats staked open, litter problems: yes, some livestock are stupid enough to fancy the packet of cheese and onion smelling yum, dogs. Then you consider even a field of sweet looking ponies or sheep can contain ones who are hand tame and pushy, or kickers, or biters....special horse has a habit of taking one's entire hand into her mouth and gently removing the treat then gently spitting your hand out. She doesn't bite, but then I know to keep no fingers/thumbs loose. Lots of people scream and that could frighten them and cause an accident.

A frequent issue with ponies is besotted little girls bringing them grass cuttings from their gardens..I really undertsand, i was once a besotted little gir...but....its dangerous.

PL insurance doesn't get any cheaper either.

Davesnave

They can roam over our land, right enough, but Pete & I have put in fencing that makes it an Olympic challenge to get out!

Seriously, the only way in is through our "garden" (bit of a loose term there!) so it ain't gonna happen.

Our sick hens are looking a lot less sick today; in fact I caught them chasing each other a couple of times! :)

John_Pierpoint

RAS wrote: »

John

If your sister is a member of BBKA, she is insured if this happens. And they would need to prove that the bee was one of hers, which given they fly 2 km is going to be hard.

However, it might be an idea to think about whether the bees currently fly across the neighbour's garden? We have put up a screen that forces the bees to fly above head height. That means that it is almost impossible for a human to get between a bee and its hive when it returns home (if you stand in front of a hive facing it, bees will collect on your back).

One point I would make is that almost everyone we have dealt with thinks:

1. Bumble bees (specificalyy the red tailed and various yellow banded ones) are honey bees.
2. Honey bees are wasps.
3. Hover flies are wasps.
3. Solitary bees are wasps.

So it may be that the neighbour needs to learn what a bee actually looks like first.

Depending on the direction of the nearest rape field, the bees can pass over two 6ft high walls that mark out a public footpath and then swoop across "next doors" manicured lawns.

You know one of those "if it moves oil it, if its still paint it" couples.

Perhaps the local farmers should be instructed where to plant their flowering crops?

John.

There is also a fuss about the laurel bush that drops black berries over the foot path - obviously so poisonous that the kids will be dead within a minute of ingesting the same.
(Thinks: What am I going to do about those attractive pink fruits that grow on my yew?)

When I was about 4 I was taught what next door's Laburnum looked like.

choille

Glad your hens are perking up Dave.

LIR - The access thing is contentious & not normally a prob until the Summer when you can get aggressive people demanding to walk anywhere with dogs - it's not too much of a prob for us but others have a major time of it. As we are still technically a building site people can be stopped coming down due to H & S. I don't like folks wandering around as we have quite a lot of stuff kicking about that's not under lock & key, also live stock running around. - Summer is the time when there are a lot of people travelling through.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

John

If they are not a member of the bee group Ras mentioned, it might be worth them joining, even if it is for legal advice etc or ideas on how to deal with neighbours etc..

How long have they had bees?

Well its 2.10pm, so hubby must be there listening to the councl harp on.

We also noticed they picked the furthest civic centre in the council to have this meeting ( they have 3 all together), when we phoned to try and contact someone in the historic society, strangely enough they didnt know it was going to today's meeting

Right better get on with some work... need to earn money so i can move...lo..

COOLTRIKERCHICK

well thats it all over,, hubby was furious, but managed to keep his gob shut.... as he said it was all a farse.....so within a month work will start, and the true headache will start...

So tomorrow i am going to fire off an email to the person i have been dealing with in the planning dept, asking them for a pre- planning application on 2 plots of land, regarding the possibilities of planning for ....a... a house/dwelling
or b.... a shephards/stock dwelling.. ie log cabin, static caravan... prefab style bungalow etc... on the grounds we want to start our own agricultrial business rearing chickens and pigs and growing veg. to be sold to local businesses etc..and we would have to be on the land to look after the livestock/livleyhood etc, obviously i will word it more professional than that...lol...

and then see what response they come back with;)

I am having second thought about the house we are buying to rent out, as i want/need that money now, but i have got to think about future income.... too

On a high note, i did bank quite alot of money in my account today.. and hopefully will have abit more at the end of the week to put in as well..I am selling evereything, and anything at the mo..

had £1 from the scrappie for a few black bags of empty tins ( mainly the dog food ones i have been keeping) and £13 for the old wire coat hangers that have been coming into work...

still got a load of alu cans to weigh in,

does anyone know of a good comprehensive book on pigs? and do you know how much weaners are, and how much it is to have then :o:o and then how much you could sell the meat to the butchers for?

ukmaggie45

CTC, sorry to hear the planning stuff has gone through.

Shame you're not near Liverpool - DD and SiL have just put their house up for sale (they had twins just over a year ago so need somewhere a bit bigger) and it has a massive garden (and a super cabin in it too). Hale Village (PM me if you'd like a link), so the downside is the aircraft from John Lennon Airport nearby, but they got used to the noise fairly fast and they dont fly at night. Neighbours keep chooks, hear the cocks crowing when we visit. Don't think you could keep pigs though! Mind you I think pigs are over-rated as a "cash crop" and would be very expensive to set up, plus there's all the DEFRA stuff would come in too.

Davesnave

ukmaggie45 wrote: »

Mind you I think pigs are over-rated as a "cash crop" and would be very expensive to set up, plus there's all the DEFRA stuff would come in too.

That's why I like hay. Suddenly, around this time of year, it turns into pig........pig fractions in fact, all pre-frozen.

I only know that the cutting up etc costs around £8-9 per animal, but I've no idea about the price of weaners because Pete does his own (or swaps them for somebody else's, or for something else!)

Last night he gave me a lawnmower, though I've not worked out yet what I've done to deserve that. Got rid of more weeds, I guess.

Never mind, your time with the planners will come CTC. :grouphug: