Average speed cameras and data collection

flang

max2009 wrote: »

Flang i know someone in special branch who told me differently.A lot of cameras take photos of 'suspects' vehicles and log them when their plates are flagged up on the database.

Hi max, im not saying cameras dont exist as i know they do. What iam saying is the highways agency dont store vehicle distance/usage data etc (not ur actual number plate anyway)

On controlled motorway/active traffic mangement sites, eg, m42,m25,m20 etc The highways agency collect data if you have been speeding (to send u a ticket). This data is on a different system and is far more secure, even the cables to the cams are fireproof and covered in mental conduit the cabinets are also like bank safes!!

dacouch

The information from the highways cameras is available to the police "For specific investigations".

No doubt this will change as they would love to be able to monitor everyone, everywhere.

Mathew

I posted something earlier whereby I thought that average speed cameras were just that and an ANPR camera was something used by Police to alert them of stolen vehicle and alike as described in other subsequent posts. I was told that i was mislead. However, reading these recent posts I'm not so sure that I was?

I thought speed cameras, whether permanent or not, were effectively the highways agency responsibility and obviously do record an image for purposes of later pursuing those who go to fast! However, do not check the Police's and DVLA for 'flagged' vehicles immediately. Indeed are only interested in vehicles going over limits

The less seen 'ANPR cameras' I thought are linked to the DVLA, Police databases in order to immediately identify vehicles of 'interest' like in 'Pew Pew Pew Lasers' account to alert the Police or alike. I presume there that the Police placed the number plate (obtained from witness) on there system that an ANPR camera recognised rather than any CCTV.

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

flang wrote: »

Not incorrect!
I expect you were caught on cctv camera and they followed you.
Highways agency anpr cameras are gprs/gsm and only send journey time data they do currently not send video or images.

Riiiight, so a CCTV camera caught me. That was lucky wasn't it, I bet there were only 500,000 cars passing along that road on that day.

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

Mathew wrote: »

I posted something earlier whereby I thought that average speed cameras were just that and an ANPR camera was something used by Police to alert them of stolen vehicle and alike as described in other subsequent posts..

A SPECS system is an ANPR system.

Happychappy

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

This is incorrect. I work in television and on a job a passenger of mine was waving a prop around in the car (fake plastic pistol). Despite my warning the passenger to stop being silly, a witness must have reported it.

A couple of weeks later my car was picked up on the M60 by a camera, and I was tracked all the way to Leeds, where once I left the motorway I was pulled over.

The (armed) officers told me they'd spotted me as soon as I joined the motorway in Manchester - a camera.

A frightened or concerned member of the public would have reported that two brain dead knobbers were in a car waving a gun around, so the police would have created a report and entered a marker onto the PNC against the registration number so that any police vehicle or ANPR site which checked the car number plate would automatically have been informed that the vehicle was seen with two knobbers on board waving a firearm, which clearly worked in your case.........so your point is :rolleyes: ?

flang

Hi mattew,
ANPR cameras can be used in many different ways. The highways agency has 10000s of ANPR cameras on the motorways which are usually attached to bridges or gantries. These are for journey time surveys; your numberplate is taken and a few digits are removed (for data protection) this is then sent to a database. Once your numberplate is taken again from another camera your journey time is calculated.

The other type are usually owned or in partnership with the police, these are used for no tax, mot etc, and are usually houses within a mobile van.

On motorways which have variable speed limits or hard sholder running (controlled motorways/acive traffic mangement or in road works) ANPR cameras are used to determine speed over distance.
In some cases gatsos are houses on top of ganties.

Mathew

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

A SPECS system is an ANPR system.

I think all of the systems use the generic ANPR technology, as it may be the best out there although it is not 100%, but is it the less seen ANPR cameras on motorways main roads into towns that are linked to alert immediately. Ie could an bright yellow average speed camera on the motor picked up your car immediately and notified the Police

flang

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Riiiight, so a CCTV camera caught me. That was lucky wasn't it, I bet there were only 500,000 cars passing along that road on that day.

There is no other way mate unless a member of public reported you or the police had been following you.
its not hard to follow the same car on cctv!

Happychappy

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

A SPECS system is an ANPR system.

The SPEC system has to be an automatic number plate system otherwise it wouldnt work ?

It does not however have access to the police national computer, it doest not give information markers, or have access to the MIB database, DVLA database and the many others the police use ? it only gives the number plate identifying the vehicle and the registered owner.