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Average speed cameras and data collection

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  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    flang wrote: »
    I install these anpr camera for a living and can confirm that any data collected is not saved.
    ANPR cameras on the motorway are used for journey time survey only, once the vehicle number plate is detected some letters of the plate is automatically removed for data protection. This data is sent back to a central daabase to determine the distance travelled and time.
    until they manage to change a few laws.
    ...work permit granted!
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    They already have I'm afraid Flang and Goldspanners, have a read of this link (There is loads on the internet about it).

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/sep/15/civilliberties.police
  • nickj_2
    nickj_2 Posts: 7,052 Forumite
    why do we put up with intrusion of our lives
    if speeding is such a major problem then the fines and punishments should be greater
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I've heard that they are also issuing fixed penalties for no insurance with the speeding FPN if when they cross check on the database and your car comes up as not insured (The database is 95% accurate).

    The UK has at last count 1 cctv camera for every 14 people!!! We have 1% of the worlds population but 20% of the worlds CCTV cameras!!!

    Maybe that will solve the jobs problems, we get even more cctv cameras and it will need more staff to watch them and hey presto we solve the jobs problem. The government could even use all of the extra cameras to raise tax sorry I meant fine more people...
  • flang
    flang Posts: 1,094 Forumite
    Correct although the highways agency does not hold vehicle registrations, the police do what they want!
    There are currently very few fixed police anpr sites throughout engand, ive never come accross any whilst working on many motorways.
  • flang wrote: »
    I install these anpr camera for a living and can confirm that any data collected is not saved.
    ANPR cameras on the motorway are used for journey time survey only, once the vehicle number plate is detected some letters of the plate is automatically removed for data protection. This data is sent back to a central daabase to determine the distance travelled and time.

    I believe the police have ANPR sites installed for tax and insurence purposes although I have not come accross any on the jobs that i have worked on.

    This is incorrect. I work in television and on a job a passenger of mine was waving a prop around in the car (fake plastic pistol). Despite my warning the passenger to stop being silly, a witness must have reported it.

    A couple of weeks later my car was picked up on the M60 by a camera, and I was tracked all the way to Leeds, where once I left the motorway I was pulled over.

    The (armed) officers told me they'd spotted me as soon as I joined the motorway in Manchester - a camera.
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    I don't know what routes you work on (btw - that's not an invitation for you to enumerate them) but I could take you to several sites right now and none of them would require my driving for more than half an hour from where I live. I don't live within the M25 either.

    Static sites are not necessarily on the motorways themselves as you probably know all too well and were not necessarily originally installed by on on behalf of the police. They are not all painted yellow (as was originally mooted at the start of the project) and - camera dependant - do not always need the IR illuminators. Much of the data is now being obtained from what might be described as dual-purpose sites.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • max2009
    max2009 Posts: 543 Forumite
    Flang i know someone in special branch who told me differently.A lot of cameras take photos of 'suspects' vehicles and log them when their plates are flagged up on the database.
  • flang
    flang Posts: 1,094 Forumite
    This is incorrect. I work in television and on a job a passenger of mine was waving a prop around in the car (fake plastic pistol). Despite my warning the passenger to stop being silly, a witness must have reported it.

    A couple of weeks later my car was picked up on the M60 by a camera, and I was tracked all the way to Leeds, where once I left the motorway I was pulled over.

    The (armed) officers told me they'd spotted me as soon as I joined the motorway in Manchester - a camera.
    Not incorrect!
    I expect you were caught on cctv camera and they followed you.
    Highways agency anpr cameras are gprs/gsm and only send journey time data they do currently not send video or images.
  • max2009 wrote: »
    Flang i know someone in special branch who told me differently.A lot of cameras take photos of 'suspects' vehicles and log them when their plates are flagged up on the database.


    I think its also how they found out who the suspects were who were involved in the murder of Gerry Tobin.

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Hells-Angel-Gerry-Tobins-Murder-Motorbike-Gang-Members-Are-Sentenced-To-Life/Article/200811415164024
    Not Again
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