Centrica confirms price increases for BG customers

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Poppycat.

Before I posed you a question you had contributed 8 posts to this thread – all either filled with invective or, despite not being a BG customer, bemoaning your plight. A small compilation:

[QUOTE]‘but unfortunately I am poor and cant afford too.’

‘Disgusting’…. ‘but it is still disgusting immoral and outrageous increases’…. ‘it makes me bloody sick.’…. ‘whilst the vunerable and the poor yet again suffer under new Labour’….. ‘Its a !!!!!! joke’….. ‘I was aiming my anger and contempt at the companies/wholesalers’….. ‘I am sick of this continuing struggling for money it gets worse every year,’…… ‘Doing the right thing to the shareholders and fat Chesire cats.’…… ‘By heart bleeds for Sir Roy Gardner Big fat cats like them creaming off profits and exploting the poor.’….. ‘They dont deserve Knighthoods for what bthey do, they get paid to do there job and wlel paid at that, and now they want more. Begger them.’….. ‘I hope some day someone knocks that smile of his smug face.’……[/QUOTE]
Since my question your posts have deteriorated into personal abuse.

Unfortunately many of your posts in other threads are in the same vein.

I have not asked for any details of your personal situation but merely asked how you define poverty.

You have a house to live in, masses of electronic equipment, can afford the internet and run a car; yet you clearly consider this to be insufficient and constitutes poverty. Well I wonder what you feel is reasonable?

It is completely another question that you don’t work and the State provides you with such meagre support. However you lose no opportunity to attack the Local and National Government, Industry and above all high taxes; you might well reflect on how those taxes are spent.

PS You and Superscotsman make an excellent team

MajorR

In this country we have access to clean drinking water, sanitation, free education for children and free access to medical care at the point of need as well as money to pay for food, clothing and heat.
We also shouldn't expect our aspirations to come to us for free at others expense, we should expect to have to work to acheive our aspirations.

So our basic needs are provided ie.education & medical care, plus heat, food and water is there if we pay for it. Isnt that expected in a cilivised society. but the basics of life like water, food and education are a necessity of life and the least we expect, don't we want more as a 1st world country. And to my knowledge most peole do work.

So I am asking - where does the money come from to help the poor because you cannot dis-incentivise fiurther the low paid from working.
Similarly if you dis-incentivise the rich then our top talent will move abroad.
Perhaps you take it from "shareholders" - well as already pointed out that's us and our penion funds which have already been raided by Gordon Brown.
If you penalise investment then you will have no investment in British industry and reduce private pensions which means more people will need to be supported by taxpayers.
I agree with Poppycat that the poor need more money.
What I am trying to debate is where does it come from without causing significant harm elsewhere? - again no reply and no cogniscence of the other issues is society.

If you follow that line of thinking (and you are correct) what conclusion do you come too? There will always be poor so bad luck on them or the systerm we are living in is wrong.

There is also a divide between the hardworking and the not so hardworking.
People who work hard should be rewarded in my opinion and those who don't want to work should accept that they will be on the "breadline".

I argree totally people not willing but able to work should get nothing and the hard working should get everything they need and more, but working hard doen't give you everthing that you need, there isnt alot of reward on £4P/H

In the meantime - what's the issue with renting?

It's normally people who are buying who say this sort of thing. The issue that i have with renting is that peoples wages are going straight into the pockets of landlords who then go and buy more property. We are going backwards as a society to the days of slumlords and people renting their whole lives and never being able to buy.

I think you've got the cause and effect here.
It's nothing to do with Labour.
Our planet is running out of finite resources.
It's going to continue to get more expensive for reason I've already outlined i.e. the developing world with have huge demand.

Again i agree, i only mentioned labour as a reference point rather than a cause. If only public transport was cheaper people might use it more often. The Sun is still shinning and the rivers are still flowing, the sooner we get onto solor/hydro power and use its full potential the better

MajorR

[lisyloo]Population of the UK was 59,834,300 mid 2004.
Number in employment sep-Nov 2005 was 28,764,000.

Which is 48%.
Sorry I win :-) by a small margin

details from https://www.statistics.gov.uk

The unemployment rate was 5.1 per cent, up from 4.7 per cent both over the quarter and over the year. The number of unemployed people increased by 108,000 over the quarter and by 123,000 over the year, to reach 1.54 million.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=12

meanmachine_2

There are actually around 9 million adults who are "economically inactive".

Don't forget, we have 1.5million unemployed and god knows how many on "incapacity benefit".

The number of non-working adults in this country is the same as it was during much of the 80s.

Anyway, 22% is chump change. Again, I point out that property has increased 300% in the last 10+ years. Now that's hyperinflation.

This isn't new money. You're taking from one generation (mine and younger) and giving to those in their 40s, 50s and above.

I do think the gas rise is very high, but as I understand it, we've enjoyed low prices for a long time.

Compared to the Chinese equivalent of meanmachine, I'm still very lucky. But in the next 10 years, he's going to be grabbing a larger slice of the world pie - and we're going to be the poorer for it. Why not? He works harder than me, and is less expensive than me.

Derek_A.

Wait wait wait,until they have all increased their prices, its the only way to find the best deal.

loubie_lou

Its a darn shame this chat forum is ending up going down the toilet. I thought this post might help me to decide whether to switch from British Gas to a cheaper supplier yet I have to waste my time reading through drivel like this.

C'mon peeps is it really that hard to keep to the point? My point END OF.

loubie_lou

Well I'm sorry for calling it drivel but this site is for discussing money saving ideas not people's personal lives. Sorry if thats uncaring but things like that should be discussed with a doctor not on a thread discussing british gas!!!!

It was not an personal attack on anyone as I'm sure most people on this site has seen this site is just becoming a place where we can personally attack each each other...so rant over. I think this thread should be deleted now as its totally lost its point.

Thanks
Rant Over

Poppycat

My only main concern is the rise in prices that has a huge impact particularly on those on low incomes (working or not working), and fixed incomes.

lisyloo

Hi loubie_lou

I have deleted all my posts on this thread as I'm guilty of going off topic (can I suggest that others do the same?)

As far as the gas energy situation goes I'm afraid I don't have a lot to offer.
I'm just as confused as everyone else.

My feeling is that a capped tarrif would be a good idea as prices are only likely to rise.
I have gone with Npower for the time being.
Obviously when switching you should be careful not to switch to a company who will shortly put their prices up.
You can't predit this, but you can get some idea by looking at this site which lists recent price rises.

http://www.ukpower.co.uk/price%2Bupdates.asp

I hope that helps (because that's all I'm trying to do).

loubie_lou

Of course you are lissylou! Thanks I've posted a thread on here about the new capped BG thing, what do you think?