Breeding our Dog

hethmar

faye6174 wrote: »

I am not thinking of opening a stud farm or anything just the odd litter.

. (I have family members queing for one of his pups!)

My reason for asking is that i would have to advertise and i am not sure where i stand legally if i were to do this. .

I think your first post definitely gives the impression of breeding probably at least a couple of dozen little souls.

Perhaps a quick read of this thread:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1497253

faye6174

Maybe OP was not clear as it could have been. (That's why people usually ask questions to clarify) The point is I was asking for advice. None of it was what I wanted to hear, but mostly useful nonetheless and not a personal villification. I was undecided and seeking advice from those who know more about breeding. There is a lot more to it than I initially thought and my dog comes first. I will now be leaving it to the experts. (as a direct result of posting on this forum and the advice received)
At no point did i mention selling/advertising puppies. Advertising the stud-yes, puppies-no.

UKTigerlily

faye6174 wrote: »

Maybe OP was not clear as it could have been. (That's why people usually ask questions to clarify) The point is I was asking for advice. None of it was what I wanted to hear, but mostly useful nonetheless and not a personal villification. I was undecided and seeking advice from those who know more about breeding. There is a lot more to it than I initially thought and my dog comes first. I will now be leaving it to the experts. (as a direct result of posting on this forum and the advice received)
At no point did i mention selling/advertising puppies. Advertising the stud-yes, puppies-no.

I'm glad you read through the replies & posted again, and i'm glad your Dog won't be bred from, it sounds as though you care about him alot & want the best for him, which is all we want to know! I do have to suggest Castrating him though, not just so that he won't breed, but for the health benefits such as the fact he won't then get Testicular Cancer + it lessens the risk of him being stolen. Of course, only you & your OH can decide whether to breed him, castrate him or leave him as is, but I hope you'll think about doing him.

My Own Dog has to have 2 Mammary Tumours removed, hopefully this month, which she quite likely got due to her original Owners not Spaying her :!!

foreign_correspondent

UKTigerlily wrote: »

My Own Dog has to have 2 Mammary Tumours removed, hopefully this month, which she quite likely got due to her original Owners not Spaying her :!!

Absolutely -the risk of mammary tumours is vastly reduced by speying, and if you have a pedigree entire dog and are not intending to breed, I would advise it - as it make them much less attractive to thieves.

It also makes them less likely to stray when they become aware of a b1tch in season - some intact makes will dig under or through fences and roam for miles!

ymakesmile

I have to agree that if you need to ask this question...you shouldnt be even considering breeding.

looby-loo_2

OP, I am pleased that you have decided not to breed

lostinrates

respeying, nuetering, in my dogs breed it makes no difference. With the dogs I'm taking to Crufts this week it reputably does effect weight and, importnantly if you show, their coats. There is however little doubt that it makes the life of a 'normal' domestic pet happier. Females don't have to medicated or retristed in season and males have less frustration. I've not noted in any of the dogs I've known of any breed have a character change after nuetering, and there seems little good argument for keeping a dog that is not showing or breeding enitre. Once my girl has completed her show career she will be nuetered:) she hasn't even had her first season yet though.

It is possible, and I didn't know this until recently, possible to show a nuetered dog. You need a letter but I can't remember the process.

This is the sort of thing - the impact of nuetering breed, or even line specifically, is the sort of thing really good breeders with loads of experience know, and they should welcome enquiries from their puppy owners at any time in that puppy's life to answer questions based on their experiences with their breed.

ETA: one final point. My dog was actually a gift, from a breeder who has both her breed and the breed I was brought up with. She was given to me in the hope of encouraging younger blood into the breed and this is why, in fairness, I show her. My reparation to her breeder is showing a good, healthy, loving animal. Her breeder would hope I would breed and would encourage and nuture me, because breeders with a passion for their dogs are looking always to foster other 'talent' for eye. Thats another reason why showing, despite its poor rep, and often poor reason for participation, is, I maintain, valuable, because people who are genuinely interested in perhaps getting into breeding in the future will be embraced by other good breeders and helped and guided. and will, if its really for them, be helped.

UKTigerlily

I was just thinking the other day how the heck can it be necessary to only show intact animals, when keeping them that way causes such health problems if that makes any sense? IMO i'd rather have a Dog with bad coat texture than one with Cancer, so why don't judges accept Spayed pets? Weight is easy enough to keep under control once Spayed but I do know of the coat texture changes. IMO it should be necessary to Neuter all show animals, tho i guess many are used for Breeding also so idk?

lostinrates

UKTigerlily wrote: »

I was just thinking the other day how the heck can it be necessary to only show intact animals, when keeping them that way causes such health problems if that makes any sense? IMO i'd rather have a Dog with bad coat texture than one with Cancer, so why don't judges accept Spayed pets? Weight is easy enough to keep under control once Spayed but I do know of the coat texture changes. IMO it should be necessary to Neuter all show animals, tho i guess many are used for Breeding also so idk?

Shjowing, originally, is the shop window for breeding animals, and a 'peer review' of how correct to standard the dogs from a breeder are. Of course it is now a hobby too, which also reflects on the breeders of the dogs..how correct the animals they don't keep back are, how many continue showing as veterans, etc etc. It would be unreasonable for breeders, and pedigree dogs IMO, to close this avenue of peer review.

Yes, I didn't know until recently that one could show a netered dog, but the breeder I'm going with explained how it could be done. It should be more widely publicised IMO, and encouraged. Showing can be fun (I don't get involved with fussy and hairy breeds though:o , I like a workmanlike dog that shows itself, ) and is a good place for enthusiatic PET owners to get more involved in their breed without breeding.

UKTigerlily

I've shown my Moggy who qualified for the Supreme Cat Show @ NEC & I must admit I loved it & so did she, she thought her xmases all came at once! I don't now as I don't have an OH with a car & she's getting on abit now, but it was fun. Not much chance of showing the Dog for fun as she hates other Dogs!