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PROLIANT

never-in-doubt wrote: »

Not for me! She sent me a little (or big) paying in book on my 18th - think it was called poll tax!

No one is perfect, she had more balls than the Brown and Blair put together.

never-in-doubt

Britains Most Loved Man!

never-in-doubt

PROLIANT wrote: »

No one is perfect, she had more balls than the Brown and Blair put together.

Yep - I do agree. She got us out of trouble, as well as into trouble. To be fair I still respect the lass, I remember when she went to the cameraman at downing st and gave him the finger - awesome!

never-in-doubt

Further to my post about Gordon Brown in todays N.O.W - see article here:

Mr President.. I’ve screwed up

NEXT week, Gordon Brown will become one of only five British Prime Ministers invited to speak to the US Congress.

So how to strike the right note? In a spirit of citizenship, I have written a draft here for the speech he should give . . .
Thank you Mr President for your generous introduction. I’m impressed that you delivered it with a straight face.
Let’s drop the pretence. I’m no conquering hero, but a doomed PM trying to postpone an election I know I’ll lose.
That’s life. Last autumn, I was a hero who “saved the world”. Now I’m seen as some jinxed Nick Leeson, a serial bank killer.
How did this happen? If you want to learn something, I’ll tell you. Because you can’t afford to repeat my mistakes.
At home, I’m not known for saying sorry. But I thought on the plane over: who am I kidding? Who doesn’t know?

Shocked

I was Chancellor since 1997. I wasn’t just at the scene of the crime, but wrote the script and cast the actors. I knighted the bankers, taxed all their bonuses. And now I have to pretend to be shocked at what went on.
So I say to you today quite simply, in the words of your president: “I screwed up”. And let me tell you just how much.
There’s a scene from that film Rogue Trader where the anti-hero screams “I, Nicholas Leeson, have just lost £15 million in one day.”
Well I, James Gordon Brown, am adding £15 million to my country’s national debt every hour. That’s £120 per household per week.
It should have been so different. But I realise now that my genius contained five deadly sins.
I RAIDED the pension funds. Didn’t think anyone would notice. Turns out 20 million pensioners did – and they all vote.
I designed a USELESS banking regulatory system, about as effective as asking a nun to referee a boxing match.
I badly UNDERFUNDED the military. So we lost men, we lost Basra and are now going nowhere in Afghanistan.
I then FLOODED the economy with cheap debt, hoping people would feel rich and vote for me before it went pop.
Finally I RUSHED to nationalise the banks before working out what I was buying. I let them fleece the taxpayer.
You can say it’s poetic justice. I bullied my way into No10, forcing Tony Blair out. No one outside Fife has ever cast a vote for me. But I did this all for the very best of reasons. I genuinely believed my way would lead to a fairer, safer, better-run Britain.
Like so many, I was spellbound by banking profits. I didn’t ask questions, and spent the tax receipts.
I’m not going to stand here and blame it all on the sub-prime market in Idaho. The dodgy thinking wasn’t American, but Scottish.

Misery

I came to this great country 15 years ago to learn from the Clinton era. I was full of hope. But I placed my hope in government, not the people.
So I say most sincerely to you: don’t try this at home. For this path leads to debt, misery, ignominy and – ultimately - electoral defeat.
Thank you and God Bless America. And you if you have any after-dinner speaking gigs from June 2010, please see my agent Lord Levy.


Taken from: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/columnists/197602/Gordon-Brown-Barrack-Obama-Fraser-Nelson.html

bert&ernie

noah271007 wrote: »

In reference to RBS, and HBOS it is TOTALLY unacceptable for those FAT CATS who are incompetence and failed BIG TIME to take millions of taxpayers money to spend on their retirement. How can that be right? There are people who have lost their jobs, AND pensions because they made mistakes in real life every day. Where are the record profits they had over a decade? I would have thought they save a percentage of the profit they make each year put away for a raining day. I don't have much faith with British justice system (which over the years have become a joke) because we all know that FAT CATS will get away with it with OUR HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!

I'm assuming that you meant to place a comma after "BIG TIME".

Goes back to my original question - should RBS have been allowed to go to the wall? HMG could have allowed this, or even decided to fully nationalise it. Instead, it chose a half way compromise and now its getting itself into a lather over the pension that they agreed with Fred Goodwin at the time of his departure.

This is a nothing more than a smokescreen to hide the governments own incompetence. The recession and the credit crunch are essentially political problems, yet the politicians want you to believe it is a technical problem caused by a few individuals. In that sense, Goodwin makes a great pantomime villain to deflect attention from their own shortcomings and complicity in creating the crisis we now face. As Jeff Randal wrote in the Telegraph today, "If Sir Fred Goodwin did not exist, the Government's Department of Propaganda would need to invent him"

epsilondraconis

noah271007 wrote: »

In reference to RBS, and HBOS it is TOTALLY unacceptable for those FAT CATS who are incompetence and failed BIG TIME to take millions of taxpayers money to spend on their retirement. How can that be right? There are people who have lost their jobs, AND pensions because they made mistakes in real life every day. Where are the record profits they had over a decade? I would have thought they save a percentage of the profit they make each year put away for a raining day. I don't have much faith with British justice system (which over the years have become a joke) because we all know that FAT CATS will get away with it with OUR HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!

I couldn't agree with you more.

I'm certainly not a fat cat, although I do like a bit of p u s s y every now and again...

No seriously, Fred the Shred etc shouldn't be receiving that huge retirement pot.

It's all of the 'little people' like us that are now seeing the effect of their disasterous and cavalier strategies. However I can't help thinking that if some of the 'little people' didn't stop to think about the lines of credit they were taking out in the good times, perhaps the problems wouldn't be so bad. Again, I don't mean the small business owners doing they best to keep their companies going who have now had their lines of credit removed or the individuals that got into debt due to emergencies etc.

I guess what I'm saying is that we all have a responsibility. Obviously the fat cats had the biggest responsibility and they left us high and dry.

PROLIANT

epsilondraconis wrote: »

I couldn't agree with you more.

although I do like a bit of p u s s y every now and again...

...and to drink the white wine from the fury cup! :beer:

never-in-doubt

epsilondraconis wrote: »

I couldn't agree with you more.

I'm certainly not a fat cat, although I do like a bit of p u s s y every now and again...

You've copied my swear avoidance hahaha :j (leave gaps or put a full stop in middle of letters)

never-in-doubt

PROLIANT wrote: »

...and to drink the white wine from the fury cup! :beer:

we all love to drink wine from the furry cup

PROLIANT

never-in-doubt wrote: »

we all love to drink wine from the furry cup

Woof, Woof!