Does private schooling help to get a nice career?

Aspiring

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

I prefer not to mix with people that think it's OK to let their children see !!!!!! and I'd rather my children didn't mix with theirs. I don't think any of us are less respectful of other people. I have friends that live in ex local authority housing and friends that live in grand houses. It makes no difference to me, what does is their outlook on life.

To be fair, Shirl, you are assuming that is how the child knew how to draw those pictures; even if that is true, by your own definition:

I think there are a very few parents that would allow their children to see that sort of material

Now, you've made a point that you have friends who are ex local authority; but that comment is quite insensitive and could be quite provocative on a site like MSE. I don't know precise numbers, but I'm quite certain that there is a large percentage who are currently in social housing.

By that same token, you are also assuming that the purchasers of !!!!!! belong in the "social housing" category (or, at least, that is how your posts come across).

So, tell me, what is your issue with people who live in social housing?

hamstercheeks_2

i was brought up in social housing - me and my siblings! two of my brothers have got their own businesses - thriving too! We also attended state schools, none of your private malarkey!

i would guess my brothers business is worth well into the millions by now;)

not bad for someone brought up in one of the worst parts of Glasgow

Me, myself, well I am not as bright/fortunate as him but i'm doing okay:o

hamstercheeks_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

The sort of picture drawn was the sort you would see in a !!!!!! mag. I don't think the children in a private school would have the time to do that sort of thing and they tend to be better supervised at primary school age. With 30+ children and 1 teacher they can't all be watched. I think the point is most children wouldn't be able to draw that kind of picture at 8 and I certainly wouldn't want my children to ebable to.

:eek: :eek: my son is 10 and could;n't draw a picture like that

he attends state school btw

hamstercheeks_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

I prefer not to mix with people that think it's OK to let their children see !!!!!! and I'd rather my children didn't mix with theirs. I don't think any of us are less respectful of other people. I have friends that live in ex local authority housing and friends that live in grand houses. It makes no difference to me, what does is their outlook on life.

just because someone lets their child attend state school doesn't mean that they are bad parents and leave !!!!!! mags lying around for their kids to see
what a nutty statement

hamstercheeks_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

The difference I notice between state and private is the manners of the children. The money is worth the extra just for that.

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children are as mannerly as you teach them to be.......:p

it;s nothing to do with the school they attend, it's the parents

hamstercheeks_2

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

No I disagree. My children all know their manners and grammar come to that and state schools do not insist on it. The state schools my sons attended are very good schools (come high in The Times top 100 every year) and are massively oversubscribed. In state schools teachers spend time on crowd control that they don't have to do in private schools. It wasn't that my children stopped using good manners rather that they were witnessing appalling behaviour/manners.

I have worked in lots of state schools (primary and secondary) and there is only one (Sacred Heart High) where I found the children to be polite all the time they were within my ear shot. Mind you I didn't spend too much time there so maybe that was why I didn't witness anything bad.

speaking as someone raised in one of the roughest parts of Glasgow, and attended a state school - one with one of hte worst reputations, I would have to totally disagree with you on every point! I was taught to never swear or disrespect my parents, no matter what you heard/saw.

My kids manners are to die for, I like to take hte credit for that - they also attend state schools.

If parents can't be bothered to teach their kids good ethics - it's not the schools responsiblity to instill good manners/ethics in children - this begins at home.

barnaby-bear

hamstercheeks wrote: »

speaking as someone raised in one of the roughest parts of Glasgow, and attended a state school - one with one of hte worst reputations, I would have to totally disagree with you on every point! I was taught to never swear or disrespect my parents, no matter what you heard/saw.

My kids manners are to die for, I like to take hte credit for that - they also attend state schools.

If parents can't be bothered to teach their kids good ethics - it's not the schools responsiblity to instill good manners/ethics in children - this begins at home.

Very true but a private school is answerable to their paying customers and has no legal obligation to educate a child. So if a child's behaviour is unacceptable and the parents aren't interested the private school will protect their product and what other parents want and get rid. It's very difficult for a state school to deal with bad behaviour and the unsupportive parents it stems from, especially if they know their "rights".

Pssst

I think if you go to a decent school and the parents are fully engaged in the childs education then the child can do well. Throwing money at something isnt always the best solution.

hamstercheeks_2

barnaby-bear wrote: »

Very true but a private school is answerable to their paying customers and has no legal obligation to educate a child. So if a child's behaviour is unacceptable and the parents aren't interested the private school will protect their product and what other parents want and get rid. It's very difficult for a state school to deal with bad behaviour and the unsupportive parents it stems from, especially if they know their "rights".

i think it's just lazyness on the parents part to be honest!

if folks want to raise 'decent' kids you don't have to pay loadsadosh to send them to a private school - just teach them properly to behave and be respectful.

money can't buy class and it certainly can't buy manners

hamstercheeks_2

Pssst wrote: »

I think if you go to a decent school and the parents are fully engaged in the childs education then the child can do well. Throwing money at something isnt always the best solution.

totally agree, could end up being a money-pit!