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Does private schooling help to get a nice career?

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  • i think it's just lazyness on the parents part to be honest!

    if folks want to raise 'decent' kids you don't have to pay loadsadosh to send them to a private school - just teach them properly to behave and be respectful.

    money can't buy class and it certainly can't buy manners
    True, but if you have someone else's disruptive child taking up a teacher's time wasting time that could be spent with your decent child who is behaving properly then some parents turn to private sector where the schools, teachers and other parents have the option to remove the issue. It's the folks who don't care and no one can make them care. Some schools mainly in big cities have situations that are perpetual damage limitation and riot control on a minority unfairly wasting time.
  • True, but if you have someone else's disruptive child taking up a teacher's time wasting time that could be spent with your decent child who is behaving properly then some parents turn to private sector where the schools, teachers and other parents have the option to remove the issue. It's the folks who don't care and no one can make them care. Some schools mainly in big cities have situations that are perpetual damage limitation and riot control on a minority unfairly wasting time.


    you mean like kids throwing a desk at the teacher and other child attacking the teacher?? just a couple of incidents from my childhood.....:o

    disagree - if the kid has good 'schooling' at home, then what happens at school shouldn't interfere with that child's thinking
    Time is the best teacher
    Shame it kills all the students
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  • you mean like kids throwing a desk at the teacher and other child attacking the teacher?? just a couple of incidents from my childhood.....:o

    disagree - if the kid has good 'schooling' at home, then what happens at school shouldn't interfere with that child's thinking

    Not their thinking, manners or moral fibre but the teacher might only deliver half or two thirds of the chemistry lesson plan syllabus and might not be able to get round to the nice polite kids and pick up they've misunderstood a few points and put them right so they drop a few marks in their exams or skimp a subject area... all because no ones allowed to stop Liam/Dwayne/Tyson setting fire to their textbook every lesson and Tyson's mom doesn't care.
  • Not their thinking, manners or moral fibre but the teacher might only deliver half or two thirds of the chemistry lesson plan syllabus and might not be able to get round to the nice polite kids and pick up they've misunderstood a few points and put them right so they drop a few marks in their exams or skimp a subject area... all because no ones allowed to stop Liam/Dwayne/Tyson setting fire to their textbook every lesson and Tyson's mom doesn't care.

    it is a teacher's job is it not to deliver as much as they can to each and every pupil?

    whether they are employed in a state school or a private school, their goal/main aim should remain the same.

    i see where you're coming from but at the end of the day most teachers are only in it for the money and state school or private wages are pretty much the same.

    Very few and far between teachers take a personal interest in children - state or private school
    Time is the best teacher
    Shame it kills all the students
    :p
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  • Not their thinking, manners or moral fibre but the teacher might only deliver half or two thirds of the chemistry lesson plan syllabus and might not be able to get round to the nice polite kids and pick up they've misunderstood a few points and put them right so they drop a few marks in their exams or skimp a subject area... all because no ones allowed to stop Liam/Dwayne/Tyson setting fire to their textbook every lesson and Tyson's mom doesn't care.


    lol liked the Liam/Dwayne/tyson scenario

    but alas aint none of those in my son's class and that's state school:rotfl:
    Time is the best teacher
    Shame it kills all the students
    :p
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  • bandraoi
    bandraoi Posts: 1,261 Forumite
    you mean like kids throwing a desk at the teacher and other child attacking the teacher?? just a couple of incidents from my childhood.....:o

    disagree - if the kid has good 'schooling' at home, then what happens at school shouldn't interfere with that child's thinking
    it might with their schooling though.
  • you mean like kids throwing a desk at the teacher and other child attacking the teacher?? just a couple of incidents from my childhood.....:o

    disagree - if the kid has good 'schooling' at home, then what happens at school shouldn't interfere with that child's thinking
    Thing is I don't want my kids to see such things, I don't want them watching this while the teacher deals with it, I want the teacher teaching them. I want them learning stuff they want to learn. It isn't an issue for me yet and not financially an option but if this was regularly disrupting my kids lessons and I had the means to move to a sector with the power to exclude this type of thing I think I would.
  • Does it help get a better job? Who knows. I work in a profession with a mix of people of fee-paying and state school educations with very little difference between them - I've met good and bad from either background. Indeed, the worst, most ill-mannered person I have encountered professionally was educated at a private school. I would like to think that even with my 'humble' beginnings (brought up by a single Mum in a council house after my dad left when I was 2) I still know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad manners.

    There does seem to be a perception in my profession that coming from a private school background helps. Certainly I've been asked at interviews 'was that a fee-paying school?' when they see the name of the school I went to (which is many miles away from where I now work so they don't know the school at all). Certain firms are known to favour candidates from certain schools which is generally well-known in my profession.

    I'm very lucky that I had the most important factor in any educational development - a really supportive, loving parent in my Mum. Despite us being relatively poor, I was given a guitar when I was really young, painted and drew a lot and when I was young and although I was generally aware that we didn't have the money of some of my friends, I never felt I was losing out. She taught me about pride, discipline, the value of education and really embodied in me that I could be anything I want in life as long as I tried. You really can't put a price on that.

    Add into the mix a good, solid school which also offered a range of activities such as music and sports outwith the curriculum and I think I really had the best education available - whether fee paying or not. I can recall one or two really badly behaving kids at school who were disruptive, but they really were pointed out as being 'bad' and generally scorned at by most of the other kids who were there to learn. Believe it or not, we all wanted good qualifications, good jobs, and parents to be proud of us!
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  • lol liked the Liam/Dwayne/tyson scenario

    but alas aint none of those in my son's class and that's state school:rotfl:
    Exaclty many state schools fine but if your unlucky enough to be in area where the choice isn't good I can see why people who can do go private.
  • bandraoi
    bandraoi Posts: 1,261 Forumite
    Look at it this way, the following is usually true
    1) People who attend private schools are typically sent there by parents who clearly value education.
    2) People who attend private schools are typically sent there by parents who themselves have a high income level.

    So what you have is a set of children for whom there is an expectation of success, a role model for success, and a commitment to achieving success within the family. You don't need those things for a nice career, but it certainly helps.

    Do private schools help to get a nice career? Possibly.
    Do people who go to private schools tend to end up in nicer careers than those from state schools?
    Yes, but to me it's far more to do with the self selected elite group aspect of it. Instill the same values and send the child to a state school and they probably have an equal chance of success.
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