Bryant new build, what to offer?

Cat695

do you mean Housing association?? normally on the plot plans they will be in white.....which means you could get a real nice family next door....or a chav

personally I would stay well clear.....but then again I'm stuck up

Moldy

yep they're in white on the plans. Could I use this as a negotiating tool?

QTPie

Cat695 wrote: »

do you mean Housing association?? normally on the plot plans they will be in white.....which means you could get a real nice family next door....or a chav

personally I would stay well clear.....but then again I'm stuck up

We have some "affordable housing" in our development: it is a development requirement in the city where I live (any housing development must have a certain percentage of housing association and or affordbale housing in it). There is "shared equity" flats above some of the garages (so tucked behind the houses) and tucked away in one corner of the development is a couple of very seperate small blocks of Housing Association flats (it looks different from the main development and has it's own road access and own, seperate parking). We have never had any problems from the people in either the affordable housing or the housing association housing: infact, on the occassions that I have talked to them, then have been nice. I am pretty certain that it has had no impact on the value of our house.

I think that it depends how the development is done, really, as to the impact it would have on you. If done well, then you shouldn't really be aware they are there. As for "chavy" neighbours: there are plenty of "chavy" people with money who will buy a house next door to you where-ever you live... (unless you live in the middle of Dartmoor ).

New developments are always a bit of a gamble: you have no idea exactly how things will pan out until it begins to get established (at least 6 months after you have moved in).

One thing that I would warn to be aware of - in any new development - is the parking situation. Do you have allocated parking? The parking situation is another thing that is often difficult to visualise until everyone has moved in (and you find that the developers have allowed parking for one vehicle per house, but everyone actually has two cars... :rolleyes: ).

Good luck
QT

Cat695

QTPie wrote: »

We have some "affordable housing" in our development: it is a development requirement in the city where I live (any housing development must have a certain percentage of housing association and or affordbale housing in it). There is "shared equity" flats above some of the garages (so tucked behind the houses) and tucked away in one corner of the development is a couple of very seperate small blocks of Housing Association flats (it looks different from the main development and has it's own road access and own, seperate parking). We have never had any problems from the people in either the affordable housing or the housing association housing: infact, on the occassions that I have talked to them, then have been nice. I am pretty certain that it has had no impact on the value of our house.

I think that it depends how the development is done, really, as to the impact it would have on you. If done well, then you shouldn't really be aware they are there. As for "chavy" neighbours: there are plenty of "chavy" people with money who will buy a house next door to you where-ever you live... (unless you live in the middle of Dartmoor ).

New developments are always a bit of a gamble: you have no idea exactly how things will pan out until it begins to get established (at least 6 months after you have moved in).

One thing that I would warn to be aware of - in any new development - is the parking situation. Do you have allocated parking? The parking situation is another thing that is often difficult to visualise until everyone has moved in (and you find that the developers have allowed parking for one vehicle per house, but everyone actually has two cars... :rolleyes: ).

Good luck
QT

I believe any NEW estate thats being built (over a certain number of houses) has to have HA....however I don't know the ins and outs as there are a number of small new estates been built near me with no HA (hence why I believe its down to the number of houses being built).

I defo agree with QT pie parking can be a massive issue....in some cases even if you have been allocated parking it can still cause issues

Moldy

Thanks QT, some wise words there.

The development is pretty much finished (I think that's why we can get a bargain, there's only a few houses left!) The affordable housing houses are mixed in around the other houses. We have one allocated car park space which is fine for us but not if others have 2 cars or we have friends round!

I think I'll have to wait for the Bryant guy to call me tomorrow and see what he says, I really want to get the price closer to 130k.

Rob

QTPie

Cat695 wrote: »

I believe any NEW estate thats being built (over a certain number of houses) has to have HA....however I don't know the ins and outs as there are a number of small new estates been built near me with no HA (hence why I believe its down to the number of houses being built).

I think that you must be right, there must be a minimum number of houses in a development to trigger it.

Another smaller development down the road from us has a number or "key workers" flats included (instead of HA, I think). We are very close to a hospital - so I think that the flats are let to the nurses. That may be a way of some developments getting around the HA requirement.

QT

QTPie

Moldy wrote: »

The development is pretty much finished (I think that's why we can get a bargain, there's only a few houses left!) The affordable housing houses are mixed in around the other houses. We have one allocated car park space which is fine for us but not if others have 2 cars or we have friends round!

It can be more of an issue than you think... definitely look at the concentration of both allocated parking spaces AND "on street" parking in and around the development.

We have a garage and an allocated (deeded) parking space here. When we first moved in (bought off plan) the parking here was unrestricted and it was h*ll: since we live in a city and fairly easy walking distance from a hospital, people from along the nearby roads would park here, including our allocated space :mad: . The management company introduced residents parking and things are HUGELY improved: we now have two parking permits that apply to the private roads in the development and only residents can park here (clamping and towing is in effect). Still we get the occassional inconsiderate neighbour who lets their visitor (with a permit) park in our allocated space... :rolleyes:

I think the thing to think about - as you have said - is "if everyone has only one allocated space, then what are most households likely to do with their second car" (assuming most houses will have two cars) and what about visitors on top of that.

Still, it depends where you live. Living in a older city like I do, having a garage, an allocated parking space and the possibility of parking two further visitor's cars on private roads is actually quite a luxury!

Moldy wrote: »

I think I'll have to wait for the Bryant guy to call me tomorrow and see what he says, I really want to get the price closer to 130k.

DEFINITELY, wait for him to call you: he is playing games with you. Play it call when he phones you too. Assuming that he doesn't come back to accept your offer of £125k, then don't accept his counter offer: say you need to go away, think about it, talk it over. etc.etc.

Definitely get THE best deal that you can out of him...

QT

Moldy

Thanks QT,

I'll let you know how it goes. Is there any advantage to negotiating in person rather than over the phone. I wouldn't mind going back and it would be good to have another look around. Do you think that I would appear too keen? I'm only interested in this house if the price is right i.e. under 130k.

QTPie

Moldy wrote: »

Thanks QT,

I'll let you know how it goes. Is there any advantage to negotiating in person rather than over the phone. I wouldn't mind going back and it would be good to have another look around. Do you think that I would appear too keen? I'm only interested in this house if the price is right i.e. under 130k.

If you want another look, then DEFINITELY go for another look (and have a good think about questions before you go). It is a big purchase, so you want to be 100% sure. A second viewing is always a good idea: gives time for things to sink in and allows you to go back and look in detail at various aspects.

It doesn't hurt your negotiating to go back, but I wouldn't commit to anything there: always come away again and think about it - don't let anyone rush you into a decision.

QT

Moldy

It's a strange situation to be in, we weren't looking for a new build property but thought we'd pop in and see what was available. After showing us the showhomes, the salesman mentioned that this house (4 bed semi) had just come back on and was available and ready to move in to. The other house we're looking at is a 1930's 3 bed semi that's on for 120k (I'm sure we could get 110k, it's been on for a year) but needs about 15k of work doing to it. If I can negotiate the new build down to 130k then that would be great.

Bryant are offering a number of vouchers on "selected plots" at the moment, one of them is for mortgage paid for 2 years (up to £500 a month which would cover ours), is it worth trying to get these deals as well or is that too cheeky? I heard somewhere that they might be more inclined to offer deals rather than drop the price?

Thanks to all for the advice, much appreciated.