Recession exacerbated by sSmoking Ban in public

matbe

Chucky- sorry for earlier post may be a bit of a misunderstanding between us.

I think its time to let this thread die now its getting bitter.

chucky

matbe wrote: »

Chucky- sorry for earlier post may be a bit of a misunderstanding between us.

I think its time to let this thread die now its getting bitter.

good man :beer:

dervish

chucky wrote: »

dervish - feel free to choose which one of your past quotes wouldn't be classed as xenophobic or even racist... and that's not even counting the ones that were deleted :rolleyes:

You really really really don't understand, do you, that simply talking about race does not mean racism.

Those quotes are in no way nasty or discriminatory. Immigrants have caused problems - look on any news site - or simply cast your mind back to the riots in Oldham, Burnley etc. Also consider the ITV World in Action program of a month ago about the foreign workers who turned out to be muderers and rapists.

Also look in the history books and you will see what advantages being in the Empire gave to other countries...

So.... where are my so called racist comments then... I have never once mentioned skin colour at all.... ?

matbe

dervish wrote: »

You really really really don't understand, do you, that simply talking about race does not mean racism.

Those quotes are in no way nasty or discriminatory. Immigrants have caused problems - look on any news site - or simply cast your mind back to the riots in Oldham, Burnley etc. Also consider the ITV World in Action program of a month ago about the foreign workers who turned out to be muderers and rapists.

Also look in the history books and you will see what advantages being in the Empire gave to other countries...

So.... where are my so called racist comments then... I have never once mentioned skin colour at all.... ?

Just leave it man let it die.

scousethife

Come on I want a pig !

Help me out here

mymatebob

dervish wrote: »

You really really really don't understand, do you, that simply talking about race does not mean racism.

Those quotes are in no way nasty or discriminatory. Immigrants have caused problems - look on any news site - or simply cast your mind back to the riots in Oldham, Burnley etc. Also consider the ITV World in Action program of a month ago about the foreign workers who turned out to be muderers and rapists.

Also look in the history books and you will see what advantages being in the Empire gave to other countries...

So.... where are my so called racist comments then... I have never once mentioned skin colour at all.... ?

Go on - just to humour me - back up your original post with facts.

Or did you just troll to start a fight?

matbe

scousethife wrote: »

Come on I want a pig !

Help me out here

How about a sheep?

Plenty of cheap houses in Wales and you could still call it Derek, however you would need to wear the wellies.

dervish

mymatebob wrote: »

Go on - just to humour me - back up your original post with facts.

Or did you just troll to start a fight?

I do not to justify this post.

However as I have said I have empirical evidence for my points.

I know several people (fact!) that are now not allowed to smoke in their workplace (fact!) and who bemoan this. Also sveeral people I know have said they will not apply for jobs if they cannot smoke in the premises. (fact!)

40 pubs close a week. Dozens of landlords have gone on record to express concerns about the effect of the smoking ban (FACT!)

The Wills Factory in Sunderland which produced cigarettes and woodbines has closed (FACT!)

How many other facts do you want.... :rolleyes:

matbe

Just leave it let it die.

lostinrates

StevieJ wrote: »

Lostinrates made the point about Dervish, looks like a Gypsy.

http://www.whirling-dervish.co.uk/

FWIW I made no point exactly, just raised it in as an interesting aside/annomoly.

ETA: matbe, I think you're right, sorry for adding another post