new tamper proof stamps

omelette451

amcluesent wrote: »

I guess

I get carded to go to -

Peterborough Mail Centre Papyrus Road
Peterborough
PE4 5PE

That's because your local delivery office is attached to the Mail Centre (the 'sorting office'). Most people's delivery office is not at a Mail Centre, it's at a much smaller location in each town. But I agree, they could still have CoP machines, if they can work out a way to make sure that item actually gets put in a post box, either at a PO or at local Mail Centres. What a good idea.

custardy

amcluesent wrote: »

>that you collect at a mail centre?<

I guess

I get carded to go to -

Peterborough Mail Centre
Papyrus Road
Peterborough
PE4 5PE

fair enough but given RM are closing and centralising mail centres will you be happy to travel another say 20 miles to do that?
centralisation is coming in.
my own office moved 5 miles and the tears we get from people is unbelievable
the whole point of having post offices is for those services
delivey offices/MC's are for the delivery/downstream/distribution

amcluesent

>if they can work out a way to make sure that item actually gets put in a post box<

Yep. I had in mind something with a conveyer-belt, like those toasters you only see in hotels, and laser reader inside,

omelette451

custardy wrote: »

if you were on my delivery i can assure you no unofficially redirected mail is delivered free

When I was at university all my post got sent on to me free: my mum just wrote the new address next to the old one. We do the same now for my sister. What's more, the college I was redirected post sent to me there in vacations to my home address in the same way - and they are officially classed as a (private) Post Office so I doubt they'd be allowed to break the rules!

omelette451

custardy wrote: »

fair enough but given RM are closing and centralising mail centres will you be happy to travel another say 20 miles to do that?
centralisation is coming in.
my own office moved 5 miles and the tears we get from people is unbelievable

I don't doubt the emotion involved, but the simple fact is that private freight operators and couriers (DHL and the like) have shown that centralised hub-and-spoke systems are hugely successful, efficient, and profitable. It may be hard to accept, but RM simply needs to do the same in order to be successful.

custardy

as does getting paid for delivering letters
not doing it for free

custardy

omelette451 wrote: »

When I was at university all my post got sent on to me free: my mum just wrote the new address next to the old one. We do the same now for my sister. What's more, the college I was redirected post sent to me there in vacations to my home address in the same way - and they are officially classed as a (private) Post Office so I doubt they'd be allowed to break the rules!

exactly what needs stamped(no pun) out
RM makes a loss on most stamped mail
so double/triple handlng mail is just pouring money away
some get pulled by revenue protection and usually they come to the office crying about it
its either a paid redirection or nothing. personally i think RM need to become far more rigid on charging

mikey72

custardy wrote: »

exactly what needs stamped(no pun) out
RM makes a loss on most stamped mail
so double/triple handlng mail is just pouring money away
some get pulled by revenue protection and usually they come to the office crying about it
its either a paid redirection or nothing. personally i think RM need to become far more rigid on charging

I really think you should read your own terms and conditions, you offer it as a free service.
No wonder the system fails to even mark a stamp as used, even when you handle 100% of them.

omelette451

custardy wrote: »

RM makes a loss on most stamped mail

If RM had been more competitive when the market opened up, and if staff had been more willing to accept modern working and industry practices, they wouldn't have lost so many contracts to carry profitable business mail and they could have preserved the network in all its glory while still cross-subsidising stamped mail. As it is they have to play a super-charged game of catch-up just to survive. A test for a good business (or organisation, or whatever you want to call it) is to ask whether it would look the same were it to be built from scratch tomorrow; in RM's case the answer is nowhere near yes.

One question I do have though, for someone in the know... I read somewhere that the introduction of postcodes in the UK was an experiment that went horribly wrong (in terms of the format at least) and that they regret doing it as they did - apparently it would be so much more efficient if they had used a numbers-only system - as they did pretty much everywhere else in the world. Any idea if this is true?

frivolous_fay

How much money do RM waste processing returned junk mail?