£100 BILLION Bankrupt Britain Report

beingjdc

Here's somewhere else.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=anyZiyfc8A2c&refer=home

dervish

Cleaver wrote: »

You could move to Iran, Zimbabwe, North Korea, Angola, Albania, Congo, Honduras or Sierra Leone.

A good dose of real suffering for a while might give you a sense of needed perspective and you may realise that if the worst thing about your country is that they spend a lot on social welfare, maybe things aren't so bad.

pathetic lefty sentiments.

However you could go to some of those countries with a bit of money and live like a king.

A few years ago they would have worshipped you as a god...

zappster1966

I'm seriously thinking about giving up work altogether. Financially it just isn't worth the hassle. Once I deduct housing costs & work related travelling expenses from my wages I'm left with about £400 a month ... which for frugal old me is just about bearable ... but I'd get my housing costs, council tax etc all paid while on benefit, plus JSA is going up to £65 a week in April ... £300 a month.

So I'm basically working a 42 hr week for £100 a month. Seriously, I've done the maths 3 times, it's totally unbelievable how little incentive I have to work.

Generali

zappster1966 wrote: »

I'm seriously thinking about giving up work altogether. Financially it just isn't worth the hassle. Once I deduct housing costs & work related travelling expenses from my wages I'm left with about £400 a month ... which for frugal old me is just about bearable ... but I'd get my housing costs, council tax etc all paid while on benefit, plus JSA is going up to £65 a week in April ... £300 a month.

So I'm basically working a 42 hr week for £100 a month. Seriously, I've done the maths 3 times, it's totally unbelievable how little incentive I have to work.

If you refer back to the original article, you can see why I think that you will get a pay rise soon, relative to benefits at least.

Government spending is one third on welfare. What's the obvious target for cuts do you think?

If I was looking to save money, I'd start with my biggest outgoing first and go from there. With 2 million on The Dole and rising, a GBP5/week cut in JSA would save GBP10,000,000/week = GBP520,000,000 year alone. Then you could put stricter cap on housing benefits (which I strongly suspect will happen) and perhaps increase charges for accessing Government services (eg prescription charges, passports etc). Increasing the retirement age would (will) save a fortune too.

You're going to be much better off with a job than without one in the coming years I suspect.

mardatha

So ....let me get this right. Lots of people who are OUT of work desperately want to be in work.
And lots of people IN work desperately want to stop it.
People who are out of work envy those who do... and people who are in work hate those who dont.
And nobody in here can come up with any better idea than bickering over who said what when.
Wow! aren't people just wonderful.....

donaldtramp

But yes, you're right about the figures. Still, a lot of people on these boards conveniently chose to ignore them. If you're going to be a proper neurotic self-righteous right-wing ranter, you need to be quite selective with your evidence.

Neurotic right wing ranter! :rotfl: I think you'll find that this is becoming more and more the case from the general (working) population.
Why is it OK for people to come onto these forums to see if people can help them with their "entitlements"?
Why is it not OK to come on here and show just how much money is being squandered and spent badly? That is the taxpayers money after all.
I think you'll find that there is a swell of opinion AGAINST the system/present government as we have it just now.
Look at the opinion polls, Labour's in its death throws and we can only hope they don't take our country down with it.
People are sick of seeing their tax wasted on the benefit lifestyle choice and public sector wages and pensions.

Zappster, I'm glad you have taken the decision to work. You should be commended. You are paying your way in society and that is something to be proud off. There are millions of others who have taken the easy route.

WTF?_2

donaldtramp wrote: »

So what?
Do you think our finances have miraculously improved in 2 months after a decade of being run into the ground?

Don't worry - he's contractually obliged to find something to heckle you about.

WTF?_2

Generali wrote: »

If you refer back to the original article, you can see why I think that you will get a pay rise soon, relative to benefits at least.

Government spending is one third on welfare. What's the obvious target for cuts do you think?

If I was looking to save money, I'd start with my biggest outgoing first and go from there. With 2 million on The Dole and rising, a GBP5/week cut in JSA would save GBP10,000,000/week = GBP520,000,000 year alone. Then you could put stricter cap on housing benefits (which I strongly suspect will happen) and perhaps increase charges for accessing Government services (eg prescription charges, passports etc). Increasing the retirement age would (will) save a fortune too.

You're going to be much better off with a job than without one in the coming years I suspect.

Definitely agree on the 'having a job' thing, though I can't see them tightening up much on benefits payments for the simple fact that they don't want the ensuing trouble from a large number of disaffected people with time on their hands and a sense of lost entitlement.

The time to slash benefits and get tough was when the economy was (superficially at least) booming and unemployment was relatively low.

Of course, it's the people with a job who will be subsidising the rescue of the banks for decades to come as well as the lifestyle choice of a hard core of benefits scroungers. I can well see the attraction of just packing it all in and letting those with a work ethic take the strain.

chucky

!!!!!!? wrote: »

Don't worry - he's contractually obliged to find something to heckle you about.

i'll bite on this one

are people not allowed to have a different point of view or is this the !!!!!! forum. 5 people Thanked that post that you are knocking so to me that is a valid comment.

just because it is not your viewpoint it is not heckling.

if you don't like it, set your own exclusive forum up and post your views and then don't allow any other users so your view will never be challenged.

WTF?_2

chucky wrote: »

i'll bite on this one

are people not allowed to have a different point of view or is this the !!!!!! forum. 5 people Thanked that post that you are knocking so to me that is a valid comment.

just because it is not your viewpoint it is not heckling.

if you don't like it, set your own exclusive forum up and post your views and then don't allow any other users so your view will never be challenged.

What's all this rubbish about me saying that people are "not allowed to have a different point of view"????

What a load of rot - anyone can post anything they like but if it's a pathetic attempt to just heckle for the sake of heckling like 'nyar, your link is two months old' then they should expect it to be ridiculed.

You hecklers like dishing it out but you can't take it when someone highlights your childish behaviour.