If things get tougher?

ceridwen

Re dentists - you might like to read the free online book "Where there is no dentist":

www.hesperian.org/publications_download_dentist.php

and - for their other titles (including "Where there is no doctor") click:

www.hesperian.org/publications_download.php

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

mardatha wrote: »

Mr Brown should do the right thing and go :mad: I dont know where but somewhere a long way away
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Well don't send him back home, cos we up here dont WANT him ! lol

The trouble is the damage is done now and it's going to take years to put things right.

mollymunchkin

sammy_kaye18 wrote: »

Christ

Yeah they are offering a Den Plan thingy but you have to have good teeth to be able to qualify for it and with filligns costing abotu what £50 it will be a while until i am 'orally sound'/ They have said i need to book an oral assessment though to see how much i would be payign and that spaces are limited :eek: so i need to get it done asap but the first appointment i have is in august and for a check up becuase it took them so long ot fit me in they need to check nothing else has happened etc!! so it will be abotu september /october if theres nothing else in there before i am orally sound but hopignif i speak to her now i will be able to be put on the list for waiting. I want to stay with her though so i know my son has a dentist as liek i said there are so many people in south wales WITHOUT dentists its scary.

Get yourself on the NHS waiting list. I had to wait about a year but got there eventually (I'm in SW as well, Pembs). I was originally on Denplan paying only £8 a month but decided to opt out, then found out I couldn't just pay for each check up individually and my DS wasn't eligible for free treatment either. :mad:

knittingnelly

We had to go searching for superglue at Christmas to fix DH's teeth,that worked pretty well :rotfl:

katieowl I don't have a 'formula' for cheapo cars I'm afraid, we just go out looking when we need one. I've made five last me about 16-17 years, we got three from local papers, one from a customer of DH's who he did some work for and got paid with the car and one from a mechanic friend. That one was a cracker, went like s*&t off a stick and cost £80! I never get to say 'I'd like X' I just get what I'm given :rolleyes: I've had a couple of auto's as they tend to be cheaper.There's a big local auction which I'd happily try, but I'd take a tame mechanic with me The most we ever paid was £1,600 and that was a long time ago. As cars generally get more reliable we've paid less and still got away with it. The little things fail, like electric windows, heaters etc and I have got used to gritting my teeth and living with the old girl's 'foibles':D

Unlike some others who have posted (sorry,names not my forte when tired:o ) we are SURROUNDED by 4x4's! We are in affluent (for some!) Cheshire and are kneedeep in yuppies who would not know themselves without their 4x4's dahling :rolleyes: There are so many women round here who have HUGE cars which never, ever see the mud and get used for the school run - sometimes in our village high street there can be a row of seven 4x4's - the entire length of the street more or less! I remember some woman telling DH how she needed a new one as her last one was a couple of years old now and when she told him how much it had depreciated it was more than we've spent on cars our whole driving lives :rotfl:

I will be interested to see how the coming times affect the local 'wealthy set'.

Primrose

I really believe that materialism has brought about our current economic downfall. Over the years many people have kidded themselves into a fantasy world where they "NEED" a new car, an expensive holiday abroad, the latest mobile phone, Sky package or technological gadget. Of course we don't. As long as we have a comfortable roof over our heads, food in our stomachs and the transport means to get us to work to earn a living, why can't we be satisfied? This materialism has fuelled growth in the economy, yes, but much of it is false growth and false need, and many people are now becoming resentful because they have to rein back on some of these false needs. If we could only learn to be more contented within ourselves and find pleasure from the things which don't cost money, perhaps as a nation we would all be more fulfilled and happier. Over the past decade we have enjoyed tremendous economic growth but ended up with a broken society where kids with knives end up killing each other. Time for a major change in our attitudes I think, and that needs to start with everybody thinking about their Responsibilities instead of their Human Rights.

knittingnelly

Totally agree primrose.
The only thing that has mattered to governments for years has been economic growth - and look at the cost. Not only to our only available home - the Earth - but to our collective mental state. We need a huge turnaround in our thinking if we are to overcome the coming challenges of climate change and peak oil and I've been pretty gloomy about our chances for a long time but now I can see a real grassroots awakening to the idea of change. We really need to show the suits in charge that we are serious or they won't change till it's too late...

mardatha

I always think things work out for the best --something will turn up at the right time. Maybe thats a false smugness, I dont know. But maybe this was a much-needed smack on the ear ! LOL

katieowl_2

knittingnelly wrote: »

I never get to say 'I'd like X' I just get what I'm given :rolleyes: I've had a couple of auto's as they tend to be cheaper.There's a big local auction which I'd happily try, but I'd take a tame mechanic with me The most we ever paid was £1,600 and that was a long time ago. As cars generally get more reliable we've paid less and still got away with it. The little things fail, like electric windows, heaters etc and I have got used to gritting my teeth and living with the old girl's 'foibles':D

Thanks for your reply knitting nelly...like you say I've never put in an 'order' LOL - I started driving again after a break of many years, two summers ago, in advance of our planned move to Wales, knowing I'd need to be mobile myself, and I can't bear the thought of letting that reacquired skill slip again.
My first was a Golf, that turned out to have a dodgy MOT, and the Peugeot that I just got rid of, had no heater, windows that slithered down of their own accord, and a death rattle etc....Know where you are coming from LOL! OH has had a car all along, but it was a beast of a land rover, that I couldn't change gear in - and he used it for work every day. His workshop is on a farm so was kind of necessary!

We don't get free local papers anymore, but I'll slither into the newsagents for a crafty peek. I've been looking on autotrader's website, but there's not that much around I might be better off with a van. DH's LR is in the garage at the moment, and we are wondering if it is actually WORTH reparing as it's such a gas guzzler, shame as it's good for moving heavy stuff, so has been useful for work for him...

Regards

Kate

Primrose

katieowl - on the question of free local papers, it's worth checking whether your "locals" do an online version which you can read for free. They do around our neck of the woods although I'm not sure whether any of them include an Online "classified" for sale section.

Hell_Dans_Un_Handcart

Ugh. I feel your pain, guys. We live above the pub we run but it's a dying industry and I don't know how much longer we can stay, for many reasons. Worked out our finances again the other night and it's bleak. We both ran up debt at university so we pay off £400 a month - we really want to be debt free now (and those are minimum payments, sob). Then everything else is essentials - we don't drink, don't go out, don't have Sky, I meal plan, I buy all our daughter's essentials from ebay. We don't even have to pay rent for our accomodation but I've worked out that we actually can't afford to move anywhere and pay. Even if we didn't have debt, £400 a month wouldn't get much space for the three of us.

We're looking into moving to a pub in North Wales; I think tourism is going to boom over there soon, with air ticket prices on the rise. We went to uni there and know the area well. It seems like a much nicer place to bring up our daughter. In five years we should be debt free, I can get a job when daughter goes to school (my wage now wouldn't cover childcare much) and then maybe we can stop living off the goodwill of DH's employer. I certainly never imagined bringing my daughter up in a pub - not a rough one like this, anyway.

I just worry, worry worry worry. If DH was out of work, we'd be royally screwed. We have been silly in the past but we're working so hard to improve things now, and it feels like going backwards every time.