If things get tougher?

Yategirl

Cinny91 wrote: »

Just thought I'd let you know, morrisons are doing buy one get two free on pepsi atm. One bottle is £1.45. So, just under 50p a bottle. Might not be too healthy but a good offer for those with a sweet tooth

Counting down the minutes until home time. Having a go at making a tea loaf! Got myself a brand spanking new bread tin at the ready. Found the recipe in my 'happy campers' book. Its got loads of tips for easy camping food you can make on the fire, as well as games to play during the day and at night in the dark. (makes me want to go camping but it's far too cold!!) Me and my BF have booked a winter caravan for a weekend so I'm trying to figure out some OS meals but at a guess we'll go to aldi and get some of their 'ready to cook' meals.

Could you post the recipe for the tea loaf please? What type of cooking facilities do you have in your caravan? We do all sorts when camping (and even better meals when we had an oven in our caravan!) - things like packet sauces really help as you don't need to carry boxes of spices etc!

It has been really interesting reading the last few days of posts (the whole thread has been interesting too!!!) - why do "we" make things difficult for people who don't do what "we" choose to do? I have children and I have friends who have chosen not to have children - it doesn't occur to me to tell them they have to have children - yes we have discussed it why (for us having them and for them not) but we have respected each others choices. The phrase "mind your own business" sometimes seems very valid!!

moanymoany

Penelope_Penguin wrote: »

At what point did I say browbeating The UK's level of breastfeeding is falling away - we should certainly be doing more encouraging of BF

Penny. x

I know that you didn't say 'browbeating', I said that there can be a fine line between that and 'encouraging'.

This is what you said 'IMHO, breastfeeding is as much a public health issue as is childhood immunisation' - it is a very strong statement.


I didn't like doing it and stopped after 10/12 weeks. I had a very unpleasant Health Visitor who tried to 'encourage' me by refusing to help me stop. I went to see my GP who was much more 'mother friendly' and he helped me give up. Fortunately, the hospital had told me to give a bottle once every few days to make sure there would be no problems changing over.

Bargain_Rzl

Cinny91 wrote: »

Just thought I'd let you know, morrisons are doing buy one get two free on pepsi atm. One bottle is £1.45. So, just under 50p a bottle. Might not be too healthy but a good offer for those with a sweet tooth

They are doing a BOGTF deal on party size tubes of Pringles as well :whistle:

Any other deals I should look out for in Mr M at the moment? I need to pop in this evening as am out of Marmite...

Primrose

I can echo rosieben's comment about tax rebates. When we got married and I applied for my tax rebate, I asked for the cheque to be payable to me. The tax people wrote back and told me that I would have to provide them with a letter from my husband giving his permission before they would do this! And when I continued to work and wanted to join my company's pension scheme I was told "Women are not permitted to join the pension scheme."
I'm not a "Burn your bra" type femanist, but today's young women have no idea how far behind in the equality stakes we were then.

Caterina

moanymoany wrote: »

I know that you didn't say 'browbeating', I said that there can be a fine line between that and 'encouraging'.

This is what you said 'IMHO, breastfeeding is as much a public health issue as is childhood immunisation' - it is a very strong statement.


I didn't like doing it and stopped after 10/12 weeks. I had a very unpleasant Health Visitor who tried to 'encourage' me by refusing to help me stop. I went to see my GP who was much more 'mother friendly' and he helped me give up. Fortunately, the hospital had told me to give a bottle once every few days to make sure there would be no problems changing over.

Interestingly enough, if you phone one of the breastfeeding support lines (for sure the one of the Association of Breastfeeding Mothers - I know as I was training as a cousellor with them), and say that you want to be given help on how to stop breastfeeding, you can get that help without being made to feel bad.

In fact it is vital that if you stop breastfeeding you do it safely and properly for your health and your baby's and get given safety info about bottlefeeding - I have been SHOCKED at the lack of hygiene that some bottlefeeding mums have displayed, and that was just because they weren't given the right info.

Caterina

Penelope_Penguin

moanymoany wrote: »

This is what you said 'IMHO, breastfeeding is as much a public health issue as is childhood immunisation' - it is a very strong statement.

A statement which I stand by There's been a lot of discussion as to what's best for the mother, and respecting her choices. There's little doubt that breastfeeding is best for the baby

But as I said, this is only my opinion

Penny. x

Caterina

Penny, it is best for the mum too, and for the dad, the relatives and for society (don't I know, I had to write an essay on the subject hehe) - but if someone wants to stop it there is nothing that can be done about it and it is not worth making someone feel bad about it.

Difficult difficult painful issue that touches on such levels of intimacy!!!

Caterina

rosieben

moanymoany wrote: »

... I had a very unpleasant Health Visitor who tried to 'encourage' me by refusing to help me stop. I went to see my GP who was much more 'mother friendly' and he helped me give up. ....

How times change! when I wanted to bf my son in the 70's I was actively discouraged by the nursing staff. If it hadn't been for one of the midwives (a family friend) who spent a lot of time helping me, I would have given up. Fashions!! :rolleyes:

moanymoany

I've read many of your posts Penny and I don't believe that you would ever make any woman feel bad about herself. I believe that your encouragement would be just that. I was not really taking issue with you.

When strong views collide eh? Funnily enough I was coming home on the bus yesterday evening and there were three babies all crying. The woman next to me started to talk about when her children were little. We both agreed that we were glad it was all behind us. I said to her that when my children were babies I felt afraid most of the time - to my surprise she agreed wholeheartedly. I think this discussion has stirred up some of that fear.

Caterina

Oh how I agree with you moanymoany, about being glad of those times being behind me (although I DO miss not having soft warm sweet babies to cuddle!)!!!

While in Sardinia with my family I spent some time with my brother and his 2 1/2 and 1 1/2 year old babies, but gorgeous that the are they did drive me mad with the noise and they are driving their parents mad with being everywhere and touching everything. One day at the photographer shop the boy (2 1/2) dismantled a tripod single-handedly!

I left Italy saying to them: " Lucky me and poor you". Glad that stint is over for me, and with twins it has been lovely but NEVER easy!

Caterina (looking at the positive side of growing old hehe)