If things get tougher?

BigMummaF

Just to add my tuppence to the breast feeding debate ..I wasn't sure that I would feel comfortable breast feeding any of mine & when it came to it, I couldn't.
I have had eczema & associated complaints for ever so was 'urged' to b/f to provide the babies with natural immunities but no-one seemed to have an answer when I questioned that I could also be passing on my sickly traits if I did b/f But Ma Nature took a hand that swung in my 'favour'...Over the years, many so-called experts have declared that bottle-fed babies don't get a chance to bond with Mum because they are not held so closely so HOW can they explain WHY I spent hours gazing into my precious bundles gorgeous eyes whilst whittling complete drivel just to share something with them, while another mum sat not 10' away, boob out, baby on a pillow, chatting to her mate & SMOKING :mad: almost every time I saw her!

No, very much like this thread & OS as a whole, it's Attitude that counts a darn sight more than technique ever will.

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I have long learned that the best way to do anything controversial is to keep quiet about it :cool: . However you feed your babes is nothing to do with any outsider and moanymoany has got it spot on.

I feel that we are in a `trundling along` phase now ie getting by and keeping fingers crossed. I have started to delve into my big stockpile which is especially nice on cold rainy days. The flour situation is going according to plan and I have emptied 3 boxes now, with the aim of getting through the wholemeal by february and the white flour 6 months later. I could keep us going for weeks here only adding fresh veg and fruit. I am certainly not accumulating anything now, except the odd half price goodie for christmas . Stockpiling was a great way of saving money and I am going to do it again next summer, especially with the flour. I got bulk bags of shiptons organic and I pe-packed it into large lock and lock boxes so no expenditure on boxes next year

I made cheese scones two days ago and they took twice as long to bake in the remoska ie 30 mins instead of 15 so I think the voltage supply has been cut. I do think that we are in danger of blackouts if we get a harsh winter but fingers crossed

I hope you are all well and cosy

ceridwen

kittie wrote: »

I have long learned that the best way to do anything controversial is to keep quiet about it :cool: .

:rotfl: now THAT has got me intrigued.......errrr....you can tell us though you know....always happy to pick up any tips I am...

love
ceridwen

(who sometimes feels like she can manage to do "controversial" unwittingly for breakfast and lunch - but does try hard to keep her mouth shut for dinner in case someone thinks its controversial:cool: )

ceridwen

BigMummaF wrote: »

Just to add my tuppence to the breast feeding debate ..I wasn't sure that I would feel comfortable breast feeding any of mine & when it came to it, I couldn't.
I have had eczema & associated complaints for ever so was 'urged' to b/f to provide the babies with natural immunities but no-one seemed to have an answer when I questioned that I could also be passing on my sickly traits if I did b/f But Ma Nature took a hand that swung in my 'favour'...Over the years, many so-called experts have declared that bottle-fed babies don't get a chance to bond with Mum because they are not held so closely so HOW can they explain WHY I spent hours gazing into my precious bundles gorgeous eyes whilst whittling complete drivel just to share something with them, while another mum sat not 10' away, boob out, baby on a pillow, chatting to her mate & SMOKING :mad: almost every time I saw her!

No, very much like this thread & OS as a whole, it's Attitude that counts a darn sight more than technique ever will.

Well - I think that mental picture I have of someone smoking and breastfeeding at the same time certainly would do well with the caption "mixed messages" - breastfeeding on the one hand, but poor thing being exposed to passive smoking on the other hand. I was only thinking earlier this morning "why oh why do pregnant women still continue smoking - havent they ever heard the phrase "your body is your temple" and considered that that particularly applies when its someone else's home for 9 months?". Its one thing for someone to decide to smoke when they are on their own - but to do so when their child has no option but to do so as well - and isnt even in a position to walk away, as its still in the womb!!!

Liked your comment about "whittling complete drivel" to them - well it mighta been "drivel" - but it shows that you recognised you had the responsibility for another person there in your care and were showing enough respect and love to be doing whatever you could to bond with them and show that fact. Even dour ceridwen "cracks a smile" when she spots a mother chattering away to her child - when the child is too young to respond. One of the times you would spot a big grin on my face - as I'm thoroughly approving of that sorta communication.

mumoftwo

Frugal, so sorry to hear about your job. It a double loss as you loved it so much. Hopefully something will come along soon for you.

mummysaver

Frugal, I'm sorry to hear about your job, I hope that things go well for the business and you get to stay, but if the worst happens then fingers all crossed that you find something else quickly, and that you love it as much.

Just my quick two penneth on the bf debate, I fed mine myself cos it was easiest for me, I hate being woken up and the idea of having to heat bottles made me go cold! Plus my memory is dire at the best of times and after giving birth I doubt I'd have remembered to take bottles with me anywhere! I think that whatever works is the best thing! As long as everyone is given the support and options to make an informed choice then they should be allowed to do so.

Well I think my moans about electricity consumption are finally gettting through to the kids, found ds putting stuff on the airer rather than bunging it in the tumble dryer - I almost fell over with shock! Amazingly they are now all nagging each other about putting on jumpers and socks in the evenings now as well, central heating boiler is still not lit, so only the gas fire in the sitting room! Anyway they police each other whilst I'm at work, and the fire only goes on if everyone is appropriately dressed!

As for the cost of food, every time I look something that I consider a basic seems to have jumped considerably in price, shopping around just for basics seems to be the norm now. Got to find some cheap tinned toms, and will then do a bit of stockpiling of them come payday on Friday! Also need potatoes so will have to visit the farm shop for a huge bag, though I got some from morrisons last time and they were really good and no horrible squishy ones waiting for me to poke my finger in them either! Need to find baked beans at a reasonable price too, argh! Any tips gratefully received, have looked on mysupermarket but of course that doesn't show Lidl or Aldi.

OrkneyStar

Frugal,
Sorry about your job, I hope something comes along for you, and that you manage to do alright in the meantime.
x

ALIBOBSY

BF is a funny thing, if you stop feeding at an early stage you are made to feel guilty by some, if you go on past 6 months others will make you feel bad.
I personnally believe this motto for all mums in all circumstances MUM KNOWS BEST. Take in the advice and studies that have been done by all means, but at the end of the day they are your kids and you should trust your instincts. Mum power rules lol.

Sorry about your job frugal, my hubby is still on pins waiting to hear about redundancy and his boss has been on holiday so don't expect news till he is back, next tues (gulp). In the end hubby decided to apply for vol redundancy as it is a much higher rate than the compulsary red he may have ended up with.

Final thought for tougher times "will a common enemy pull the british together". In other words will the credit crunch and tough times herald a move back to OS living and pull the nation together, as opposed to all that dosh floting around in the "bubble" making people "grabby" and selfish with a want it now attitude. That would be good. Is it starting already with many people on lists to get allotments and a record number of poppies sold for rememberance sunday, national pride?

Or pehaps the baby woke me up too many times last night rofl.

have a good day

ali x

anniewoo

I'm sorry to hear about your job worries Frugal.I hope your fears are unfounded and that the business manages to survive.

It is bad enough to lose a job at any time,but if it is one that you love,it seems worse somehow.I was never lucky enough to have a job that I loved,all mine were just a means to pay the bills,thank goodness I am retired now.

dubgirl

Hi, I'm glad it isnt just me thinking that the prices have gone up! Frugal sorry about the job, hope something works out. Re breast/bottle, I bottle fed my DS, although wanted to breast feed but not possible for variety of reasons and I ended up getting so stressed by trying to. Definitely felt that the midwives were always trying to bully me and ram it down your throat. That put me off a bit. Anyway, every mum has to do what is right for her and I would never criticise any woman for the choice they make on how to feed their baby. I can honestly say that bottle feeding did not in any way hinder the bonding process.