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Unions protest because contractors are using foreign workers at power station.
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omelette451 wrote: »I have no idea about fish sold and will happily take your word for it, and condemn all illegal practices equally. As for blockading ports, however, I don't see what the government could reasonably do to stop it, short of sending in troops. Put it this way, if it were the other way round, and the English blockaded the Port of Dover and the French demanded that the English government do something to open it again, what would you say?
And I maintain that Polish (and other) workers in Britain get paid the same as British people for doing the same job. If that's less than the wage would be if they weren't here then so be it, it's still the current going wage. Similarly, the reason Australia issued work permits to those paramedics is because the overall cost of hiring staff is lower if they find people who are already trained before they start work. The effect is the same.
Make No mistake Omlette if our fishermen blockaded the port of Dover the Government would ACT to open it, our economy has lost £millions through the action of the French fishermen.They would act because we as a nation play by EU laws, in general the French and Spanish especially in Fishing and agriculture don't.
Your second point makes no account of the self employed , we have hundreds of thousands of self employed, when cheap labour comes here it lowers wages..Thats been my whole issue with this, if it was an "even playing field" .0 -
yep, some people do like to play the race card.
you on the other hand have just played the whole pack in this thread
He (could be she, likes dipping into the Whoop bins) could have played a good part in the Film4 film last night , I think it was called Rita Sue and Bob too. I could not believe that film :eek:
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
leveller2911 wrote: »Your second point makes no account of the self employed , we have hundreds of thousands of self employed, when cheap labour comes here it lowers wages.
I'm afraid I don't see what being self employed has to do with my post. But simple economics dictates that if wages can be lowered that easily they are too high in the first place.0 -
omelette451 wrote: »I'm afraid I don't see what being self employed has to do with my post. But simple economics dictates that if wages can be lowered that easily they are too high in the first place.
so if we had thousands of people coming here, willing to work for £3 per hour and living in public toilets,scrounging food from dustbins then wages were obviously to high before?????. Is that progression? wheres the logic there?, read my original posts on page 1 and 2 and you will see what my arguement is...you seem to think i'm against imigration and I'm not.
how low do we go with "a wage to live on"?.0 -
leveller2911 wrote: »so if we had thousands of people coming here, willing to work for £3 per hour and living in public toilets,scrounging food from dustbins then wages were obviously to high before?????.
The minimum wage is not £3 p/h, it's £5.73. And yes, it should be higher to provide more of a 'living wage', but as previous posters have said, the actual salary in many cases is well above the minimum, and some people do manage a decent living from it. What I meant was that some people had developed unrealistic expectations that the high salaries they had come to expect in the 'boom' would continue forever. We've seen exactly the same thing with people who were convinced house prices were going to continue to rise, despite the fact that they had risen so fast it was bound to be unsustainable, and just as they have come tumbling down, so have artificially high wages.0 -
Those of you who are younger and don't really remember what happens when national strikes occur will soon realise that they quickly affect everyone. No transport, no new petrol and food supplies, electricity rationed, bodies unburied, rubbish uncollected, etc etc. If there's any way to solve this dispute then someone had better act quickly. France has already made noises about listening to the workers but here it'll probably be ignored until it's really serious.
I don't know how this will be resolved." The greatest wealth is to live content with little."
Plato0 -
Winter of discontent coming. Then summer riots.0
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