Whose got the most recession-proof job?

clk299

Junior doctors used to supplement their income with crem forms, don't know if it is still the case.

I'm a midwife, I'll be in for a busy time!

Myrmidon_J

Who has the most recession-proof job?

Robert Peston!
(The tit.)

I'm training to be a financial adviser, so I'm okay. (No, really... )

arwynbr

I reckon safest job is BBC Business Editor. Mr Peston has gained while everyone else loses, doom and gloom makes great news.

lana22

clk299 wrote: »

Junior doctors used to supplement their income with crem forms, don't know if it is still the case.

I'm a midwife, I'll be in for a busy time!

We still do.

Some pretty knee-jerk reactions to what is a private service being carried out by a qualified professional completely separately to the NHS!

No one complains about the funeral director getting paid, nor the solicitor for executing/having drawn up the will in the first place. So why this hatred for doctors? (Junior doctors by far being paid less in the first place than the solicitors and the funeral directors).

It's not part of the job of a junior doctor at all to fill in what is a private legal document that the family chose to incure the cost of. There are other options, such as burial which incure no such fee.

Death certs (and confirming death) are part of the job, and are as such free. Crem forms however are part of the fee that is paid to the funeral director for the cremation. The doctor is paid directly from the funeral director's bank account and the NHS have nothing to do with it. It is also totally at the will of the doctor, there is no contractual obligation to make a legal document of this sort, just as there is a fee for acting as a professional witness in court.

lana22

amcluesent wrote: »

> you get a cheque for £71.<

I have some relatives who are in their 80s. Reckon I'll ask their GP for a kick-back.

It's almost never the GP who does the crem form (unless they die at home in natural circumstances, which is pretty rare these days, most people die in hospital or it goes to pm). It's normally the junior doctor looking after the patient in their final hospital stay that does the part 1, and a senior doctor with 5 years experience and totally independent from the doctor doing the part 1 who does the part 2.
There a rules about how long before death you saw the patient etc. You have to be very clear about the cause of death and it's a big responsibilty because 1. you are saying there are definately no suspicious circumstances about this death (you are effectively authorising the burning of the evidence if there is) and 2. that there is no pacemaker in situ. If there is a pacemaker and you fail to notice this and get it removed you incure the fee from the funeral director when the crematorium explodes (hospital rumour has it that this is £30k, which I find a bit unlikely, but it is still a lot).

We confirm death and issue death certs as part of our normal routine work, just to be clear about that as I think some people may have got confused about that?

clobber_2

I don't do crem forms any more, simply not worth the hassle and the possibility that you could end up before the GMC because someone did something bad several years previously to the deceased which you know nothing about. Especially after the taxman's taken his share. I'm not prepared to put my registration, career and reputation on the line for £71 minus tax - I have a job already.

For those of you whining about the cost of having a crem form, consider how much it would cost you to get a solicitor to fill out a similarly detailed peice of paperwork.

For the record, I am happy to do death certificates where appropriate, which is actually part of my job.

vikingaero

jamie304 wrote: »

Safer jobs are the armed forces, police and bailiffs.

I know an acquaintance who works as a bailiff. He says that whilst he has more work, it's getting harder to earn his money. A lot of people are getting more clued up on their rights from MSE/CA/The Internet and refusing entry. He's returning more cases than ever to the Instructing Organisation. In addition the recession is forcing more people onto benefits and they simply don't have the money to pay and lack any decent goods to take.

mummytofour

marshmallow79 wrote: »

Sadly my job isn't as secure...I'd go as far as saying I probably have the least safe job on here at the moment...I work for Natwest!!!!:eek:

Does that mean I need to move all my money out of Natwest? Are they next to go bye byes?

SingleSue

epz wrote: »

I suspect its going to be very unpleasant to be on benefits in the coming years, with the us in billions in debt its a lot harder to justify blowing cash on a constituency that doesnt vote or pay tax.

Claiming benefits does not mean you can't vote. Some benefit claimants may decide not to vote but not all of them.

I have always voted, regardless of whether I am working or not.

mystic_trev

amcluesent wrote: »

> you get a cheque for £71.<

I have some relatives who are in their 80s. Reckon I'll ask their GP for a kick-back.

Try Quidco :rotfl: