Digby Jones - Civil service could have half the staff.

abaxas

chewmylegoff wrote: »

getting your GP to sign you off for stress is the key to this.

I also understand that alcoholism is the other main route.

Providing you keep going to the counseling and then relapsing. Your made!

matthewcb

I wonder if this will be mentioned the next time Gordon Brown bangs on about 'Tory Cuts' during PMQs?

lilac_lady

Do civil servants still get a travel allowance if they have to move to another office, even if it's in the same region?

lynzpower

lilac_lady wrote: »

Do civil servants still get a travel allowance if they have to move to another office, even if it's in the same region?

not as far as Im aware. in my old contract it clearly said that you may be asked to work in any other LA building in the same authority at any time.

Sister has to work across her county- in & out of all offices in the county & gets nothing for that, why should she as far as she is concerned, the county is the county, she works for the whole county and therefore is expected to work outside.

I used to visit plenty of people in other boroughs ( adoption social work) and it was a nightmare to get even the train tickets back. My sister came to london for a 3 day training course, and luckily she had me to stay with she was not allowed a hotel and was only given 75% of the train ticket cost back.

abaxas

lilac_lady wrote: »

Do civil servants still get a travel allowance if they have to move to another office, even if it's in the same region?

No there are stupid rules.

Lass works for the DWP.

Trip to Leeds =

Normal person = 100 miles each way *2 * 40p = £80 quid expenses

DWP way = hire a car which takes two card to deliver it to us (20 miles from depot) put in £25 quid of petrol. repeat above things from depot.

Which saves money?

owner

I used to work for the CS and we regulary worked all weekend (Sundays more than Saturdays as the overtime was greater) it was really hard work putting off all the work Monday to Friday to make sure there was enough to do at the weekend.

Andy_L

lilac_lady wrote: »

Do civil servants still get a travel allowance if they have to move to another office, even if it's in the same region?

Only if the travel distance is further than it was before, usually 25p/mile extra.

chewmylegoff

owner wrote: »

I used to work for the CS and we regulary worked all weekend (Sundays more than Saturdays as the overtime was greater) it was really hard work putting off all the work Monday to Friday to make sure there was enough to do at the weekend.

i presume this is a tongue in cheek dig - where i was no civil servant on a permanent contract got paid overtime. technically it existed, but it had to be agreed in advance and it was impossible to get it authorised. even time off in lieu had to be done as an informal agreement with your manager as personnel would not sanction it under any circumstances. the most i ever got for working weekends was a one off taxable bonus of £50, and 2 days of informal time off in lieu for working every day from 2nd - 31st january.

chairmanofthebored

The civil service is one of the few professions in which the unions carry some clout, sure that has to have something to do with the government's reluctance to modernise.

harry_w

I'd have thought they'd save as much by cutting half the privatisation through agency workers, the contracting out of whole services to agencies that perform even worse at a greater cost, the consultants looking to open up income streams for their companies, the absurd grand IT projects, etc. etc.

The core of the civil service functions and most of their workers are necessary though they could be far better managed.

I remember when the Tories thought it would be a great idea to contract out all local authority and hospital cleaning because they believed private contractors would by definition be more efficient...it doesn't seem to have worked out like that, and I think it's had some unintended consequences...mind the superbug .