£130 parking ticket.. help????

Eagle_1

bargepole wrote: »

Also ignore the ignorant replies from people describing this as a "fine", it is no such thing, it is in illegal penalty charge.

Hey mebbe its ignorant to use the term 'fine' but people like me dont park illegally and if i did id pay up and not try to get off with it. Dont park illegally then come here later wingeing about it being expensive :cool:

peter_the_piper

To park illegally implies its against the law. As there is no law governing parking on private land then the point is moot. Whilst I (and others) do not say go out and park where you want to, there are times when you park in an accepted place and get shafted with an invoice for parking overtime/ or with a wheel slightly out of place. Normally they try to add a penalty, which apart from being against the law, is grossly disproportionate to the """offense""" caused. If they charged for "say" the next hour or two we would all pay up and say oops, trying to charge £100.00 or so is just plain wrong.

Neillgb

Eagle_1 wrote: »

£100 is over the top but at the end of the day you were late...... stop ignoring the fine, pay up before it triples :cool:

Ridiculous comment. Why not £200, £300 even.

The website is about saving money, not providing scammers with a living.

If it was £10 perhaps it would be more acceptable.

Neillgb

Eagle_1 wrote: »

Hey mebbe its ignorant to use the term 'fine' but people like me dont park illegally and if i did id pay up and not try to get off with it. Dont park illegally then come here later wingeing about it being expensive :cool:

Who are a bunch of chancers with a dodgy website, deliberately misleading paperwork, to 'fine' anyone??

Neillgb

peter_the_piper wrote: »

To park illegally implies its against the law. As there is no law governing parking on private land then the point is moot. Whilst I (and others) do not say go out and park where you want to, there are times when you park in an accepted place and get shafted with an invoice for parking overtime/ or with a wheel slightly out of place. Normally they try to add a penalty, which apart from being against the law, is grossly disproportionate to the """offense""" caused. If they charged for "say" the next hour or two we would all pay up and say oops, trying to charge £100.00 or so is just plain wrong.

Fully agree, a balanced post.

I accept that arrogant [EMAIL="bast@rds"]bast$rds[/EMAIL] that park in disabled bays deserve grief/expense. People that overstay by 10 mins do not deserve a £100 'fine'.

Eagle_1

Neillgb wrote: »

Ridiculous comment. Why not £200, £300 even.

The website is about saving money, not providing scammers with a living.

If it was £10 perhaps it would be more acceptable.

No its not ridiculous. I agreed the amount was harsh but £100 has now beome £130, then it'll be £150 etc etc.
Mrwham was issued with this back in October so why has it took this long to think about trying to sort it out ? and £30 added for none payment over a couple of months aint that bad, id have expected it to be a lot more......but hey who am I, Ive never had a parking ticket in my life so I wouldnt know would I :cool:

Too many people think they are above the law/rules these days :cool:

peter_the_piper

Funny enough, neither have I , not even a speeding ticket when an errant youth on an overpowered motorcycle. Doesn't stop me being against those whose only reason for existence is to screw the most money possible out of the 99% of the general public who would not deliberately contravene any regulations knowingly. Most people believe that PPC's are able to issue ""fines"" and pay up not knowing is all a fiddle. Even the councils are known to levy fines for incorrect parking when they know full well that their signs and lines do not confirm to the regulations. We are meant to keep within the law but by the same token their paperwork and painting must also be correct. Most designs of bays and lines are prescribed and mandatory and if they do not they legally do not exist.

emma.b123

Thing is, where do you draw the line? If you let someone off 10 mins over, then surely someone 15 mins over would have a case...and so on....
Most car parks are run independantly as businesses - so its perfectly legit to get a fine by a company that looks a little, ameuterish - for want of a better word.
TBH, I don't think there's any way you can get out of this charge, as the sign acts as T&Cs for you willingly parking in the space, and as you admit - you outstayed the parking you paid for. I know it sounds cold (but so is the law I'm afraid!) but if you looked closley at the sign, they mostly have the fine-charges stipulated - so they could argue if you thought the fines were too hefty, then you would excerise consumer choice and not park there. I guess its just a case of sucking it up, paying the fine and learning from your mistake. There's a couple of times I've literally had to leg it back to the car - but if I was late and got charged I'd just have to bite the bullet and admit I made an error, and be on time next time!

peter_the_piper

I look forward to you parking on my car park then, I'll put up a little sign. down low or up high so it is mostly illegible, and then charge £100.00 for overstaying or a tyre 1" over the line or even having a red car(hate red cars):-). Its all just as legitimate (Or not) as this is what a lot do. Overstaying does not deprive them of £100.00 parking fees, its just a penalty and in English law you are not allowed to issue any contract in which the penalty exceeds the loss made.

oldone_2

Eagle_1 wrote: »

No its not ridiculous. I agreed the amount was harsh but £100 has now beome £130, then it'll be £150 etc etc.
Mrwham was issued with this back in October so why has it took this long to think about trying to sort it out ? and £30 added for none payment over a couple of months aint that bad, id have expected it to be a lot more......but hey who am I, Ive never had a parking ticket in my life so I wouldnt know would I :cool:

Too many people think they are above the law/rules these days :cool:

Nobody is perfect including motorist. What if you were returning to your car and a person in front of you collapses and you stop to help.You then return to your car to see you have been charged £100 for overstaying 10 minutes.

Countless people have been in a similar situation and many have even appealed to the PPC, only to have their appeal rejected. A PPC is a business with a sole purpose of raising money from the motorist.

They don't 'do' appeals as it costs them money, they don't show leniency since it costs them money. They don't care how chaotic the car park is since to have their attendant direct motorists and give advice would cost them money.

One day, in all innocence you will fall foul of them, and with the credit crunch your 'fine' may well be £200. I take it you will pay this without a protest.

If you broke the law of the land you would have an opportunity to defend yourself in court with the right of appeal; and the right to have extenuating circumstances taken into account.

With a PPC, they decide the 'law,' they enforce their 'laws', they decide how much to 'fine' you, they decide your appeal, and they 'execute' their sentence.

Hardly seems fair or equitable to me.