Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

tiptoes

My DD's father pays £2.49 a month through the CSA even though he has a job that pays very well and managers to squeeze her in an hr a week to take her to a fast food place. For this he is seen as some sort of saint. Were in my DD's eyes i and my partner are seen as the bad guys for working full time to proved her with the basics.

So though I understand the view point of being angery at those who give nothing be it time or money. For me this is a worst situation as he gives so little and recieves so much:mad:

makingendsmeet_2

From a MANS (dare i say it!) point of view. My Wife has 4 children youngest is mine, the other 3 arn't. The youngest of those 3 has a diffrent father to the other 2. Her father gave up his job to be a dosser so avoids the CSA. The eldest 2's father drives a nice car etc etc and pays nothing towards his children at all. My Wife refuses to lunch a CSA claim against him. She does not work, so I have the responsibilty of paying for all the children. In the mean time I can not afford to pay my debt and am on an arrangement with Payplan that is going to take me over 20 years to be debt free. We have only been married 6 months and the strain is so much that we may not make another 6. It should be that the moment you put your name on a childs birth certificate you are responsible for that child for life. No if's or but's. Either that or the government should take into account failed CSA claims and the end of the day an out of work father get money for him to live of but the government do not surpport the children that he paid maintenance for whilst he was in work.:D

Zara33

thesaint wrote:

Kelloggs ex, for telling their daughter 'that'

Thanks for that D'OH stupid me, in my defence it's been a long week. :whistle:

Zara33

makingendsmeet wrote:

From a MANS (dare i say it!) point of view. My Wife has 4 children youngest is mine, the other 3 arn't. The youngest of those 3 has a diffrent father to the other 2. Her father gave up his job to be a dosser so avoids the CSA. The eldest 2's father drives a nice car etc etc and pays nothing towards his children at all. My Wife refuses to lunch a CSA claim against him. She does not work, so I have the responsibilty of paying for all the children. In the mean time I can not afford to pay my debt and am on an arrangement with Payplan that is going to take me over 20 years to be debt free. We have only been married 6 months and the strain is so much that we may not make another 6. It should be that the moment you put your name on a childs birth certificate you are responsible for that child for life. No if's or but's. Either that or the government should take into account failed CSA claims and the end of the day an out of work father get money for him to live of but the government do not surpport the children that he paid maintenance for whilst he was in work.:D

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Believe it or not it's always great to hear a(sensible) man's view regarding the CSA.

hobo28

makingendsmeet wrote:

It should be that the moment you put your name on a childs birth certificate you are responsible for that child for life. No if's or but's.

Technically we have a situation where regardless of whether your name is on the birth certificate or not, if the child is yours, you are responsible. (Not talking about adoption). so in theory at least we're one step ahead.

The problem is the enforcement. The current climate of political correctness, fear of breaching perpetrators human rights, politics and the fact the government cannot build a simple computer system without completely cocking it up means that the whole enforcement system is a farce.

I think we can all agree that the CSA was a good idea. However, it started off on the wrong foot using an absurdly complicated and unfair formula, then went for the "easy" targets of those fathers who were actually paying something rather than those who were not.

thesaint

makingendsmeet wrote:

From a MANS (dare i say it!) point of view. My Wife has 4 children youngest is mine, the other 3 arn't. The youngest of those 3 has a diffrent father to the other 2. Her father gave up his job to be a dosser so avoids the CSA. The eldest 2's father drives a nice car etc etc and pays nothing towards his children at all. My Wife refuses to lunch a CSA claim against him. She does not work, so I have the responsibilty of paying for all the children. In the mean time I can not afford to pay my debt and am on an arrangement with Payplan that is going to take me over 20 years to be debt free. We have only been married 6 months and the strain is so much that we may not make another 6. It should be that the moment you put your name on a childs birth certificate you are responsible for that child for life. No if's or but's. Either that or the government should take into account failed CSA claims and the end of the day an out of work father get money for him to live of but the government do not surpport the children that he paid maintenance for whilst he was in work.:D

Your wife is helping her ex's not pay for their children, so she obviously see's that as her priority, and not your debts. I think your problem is a bit closer to home.

makingendsmeet_2

thesaint wrote:

Your wife is helping her ex's not pay for their children, so she obviously see's that as her priority, and not your debts. I think your problem is a bit closer to home.

Yeah I think you are right. Time to jack it in and walk away. She will have to chase me with the CSA then. Even though I would pay anyway as I believe in responsibility.

thesaint

makingendsmeet wrote:

Yeah I think you are right. Time to jack it in and walk away. She will have to chase me with the CSA then. Even though I would pay anyway as I believe in responsibility.

A bit drastic after 6 months marriage?

Is it not possible to speak to your (new) wife and explain how much pressure this matter has put on your family? Surely if she completely understands this, she will try and get the money that the children are entitled to for their up-keep.

kelloggs36

He could try, but he can't force her to! Anyway, there is always the chance (quite high!) that he won't pay anything anyway, so the family won't be any better off. However, if it were my child, I would make damned sure I tried to claim as it ISN'T fair that step parents should pay for existing children, although of course they do by default; but it shouldn't be their responsibility.

exil

Sorry, that doesn't compute. You marry someone and decide you aren't going to support your new spouse's children? AT ALL?????