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Buyer bought a bus, paid in cash, drove it then brought it back

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  • kuohu
    kuohu Posts: 913 Forumite
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    Somewhere else out there in internet-land, there's probably a thread on a forum started by a Scotsman who bought a bus on eBay...

    :wave:

    Seriously though, great thread and good luck to you if it does go to court (which I doubt).
    DFW Nerd 035
  • tigermatt
    tigermatt Posts: 1,925 Forumite
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    kuohu wrote:
    Somewhere else out there in internet-land, there's probably a thread on a forum started by a Scotsman who bought a bus on eBay...

    :wave:

    Seriously though, great thread and good luck to you if it does go to court (which I doubt).
    Somewhere in internet land - on the millions of servers are whirring away there will be a thread probably. :rolleyes:

    I don't think he really has a leg to stand on if he had an MOT and it was in full working order when you sold it. The trip that takes 20 mins that took hours is still very suspicious.
  • Blairweech
    Blairweech Posts: 1,379 Forumite
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    After all this, I really hope that karma comes back and bites this chap on the behind. It makes you wonder how some people get through life.
    We must all suffer one of two things: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret and disappointment
  • Mandles
    Mandles Posts: 4,121 Forumite
    I wonder if you email him and tell him to look as this thread that his shame will make him drop the court case thing and just let it go. especially as you document from the beginning about him crashing it etc
  • gromituk
    gromituk Posts: 3,087 Forumite
    Just to re-iterate: the MoT test passes the vehicle at the time of the test. It gives absolutely no guarantee that something won't fail afterwards - how could it? - and to use it as a reason to accuse you of mis-selling the vehicle is laughable and will not stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever.

    So, do not waste your money engaging a solicitor. Just point out this fact to the buyer, or simply ignore his letter. If he wants to take it further, let him. I guess it might be better to send a civil and terse recorded delivery letter pointing out the fact, which will leave him in no doubt that you are not simply trying to avoid the problem. You could perhaps add that any further correspondence on the matter will be considered as harrassment and you will then report the full facts of the case to the police.

    I need to re-iterate too that the sum claimed is far in excess of what is possible in the Small Claims Court, so it's going to be an expensive and complicated procedure for him.
    Time is an illusion - lunch time doubly so.
  • GabbaGabbaHey
    GabbaGabbaHey Posts: 1,105 Forumite
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    seekaywun wrote:
    Ebay is an auction for legal purposes the same as any other auction
    I don't think so. Have a look at http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/user-agreement.html where eBay themselves say "eBay is not an auctioneer. Although we are commonly referred to as an online auction web site it is important to realise that we are not a traditional auctioneer. Instead, the Site acts as a venue which allows registered users to offer, sell, and buy just about anything which is legal, at any time, from anywhere, in a variety of price formats. We do not review listings provided by users, we never possess the items offered through the Site and we are not involved in transactions between buyers and sellers. As a result, we have no control over the quality, safety or legality of the items listed, the truth or accuracy of the listings, the ability of sellers to sell items or the ability of buyers to pay for items. Do not assume that the offer, sale, purchase, export or import of any item is valid and legal simply because it is listed on the Site. We are not responsible for ensuring that buyers and sellers actually complete a transaction. You accept sole responsibility for the legality of your actions under laws applying to you."
    Philip
  • Jamz
    Jamz Posts: 278 Forumite
    humm any updates?
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    I need to re-iterate too that the sum claimed is far in excess of what is possible in the Small Claims Court, so it's going to be an expensive and complicated procedure for him

    Small claims court limit is £5000, its only the lower limit of £1000 on personal injuries and some housing claims.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • chivvy
    chivvy Posts: 338 Forumite
    Don't forget to bill him for the time the vehicle was parked on your land.

    I'd say £100 a day would be reasonable.
  • gromituk
    gromituk Posts: 3,087 Forumite
    CIS wrote:
    Small claims court limit is £5000, its only the lower limit of £1000 on personal injuries and some housing claims.
    My apologies - you are right.
    Time is an illusion - lunch time doubly so.
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