What happens to state benefit in a recession

PasturesNew

mvengemvenge wrote: »

THE big operation???

That looks like the statement of somebody who's had THE big op themselves!

mvengemvenge

PasturesNew wrote: »

That looks like the statement of somebody who's had THE big op themselves!

No......they're not messing with MY particulars

geoffky

when will you realize benefits are the price we have to pay for us to live in a relatively crime free system because god help us if they stopped it...war between the haves and have nots????

PasturesNew

geoffky wrote: »

when will you realize benefits are the price we have to pay for us to live in a relatively crime free system because god help us if they stopped it...war between the haves and have nots????

The trouble seems to be that a lot of the have nots are those working... and vice versa.

mvengemvenge

geoffky wrote: »

when will you realize benefits are the price we have to pay for us to live in a relatively crime free system because god help us if they stopped it...war between the haves and have nots????

The thing is, while I agree with you, the 'battle' in my view will be the other way round.

I know many, many people on benefits who have holidays abroad, good cars, etc, etc. Now, their income isn't going to change, whereas many, many previously 'comfortable' people are going to have massive drops in income over the next couple of years.

So I don't think the battle lines are going to be quite as obvious.

Damzel_In_Distress

geoffky wrote: »

when will you realize benefits are the price we have to pay for us to live in a relatively crime free system because god help us if they stopped it...war between the haves and have nots????

thats just stupid!...and our existence is hardly crime bloody free!!

beingjdc

PasturesNew wrote: »

Bin some friends, the chatty ones who ask you to call them.

I don't really call people. That's my contract price, everything is inclusive, or at least more than I could hope to use. What I do get is a very fancy phone at no purchase cost, and the ability to use the internet from it for free when I'm out and about.

£60??? Do naked virgins lick the sweat from your body at that price?
Get some sale bargains at Argos and have your own gym for £100-200 max.

My room is full. My living room could accommodate an exercise bike and maybe one more thing, but not terribly comfortably, and I'm not sure my flatmate would be keen. Also what I really enjoy is swimming, and you can't do that at home! The price is because it's private and in Zone 1. When I was a member of the £40 gym run by the Council contractor I just hardly went - the water was cold, the other users were antisocial, and it was out of my way.

Well, there you go. Luxuries!

Fairly. It was my first foreign holiday since 2000 though, and I did stay with a friend for 4 days, family for 5, and in a caravan for 3. Then got 66% off the hotel for the rest of the time

£8/day is a lot of eating/drinking/washing/wearing and reading.

You'd think, wouldn't you. I just spent £20 at Iceland and £10 at the Co-op, which feels like a lot, but it has made me 4 portions of stew, 3 of Balti, 2 of Jalfrezi, 2 of Madras, 4 of brothy-soup (well, I watered down the stew), 4 of garlic and chilli spaghetti, and breakfast cereal for a month.

It's the things you don't expect. Wetherspoons set me back £14 yesterday, and if you go to the cinema, even on an Orange Wednesday, you're £15 down. Then if we have a weekend away, between train tickets and a B&B, that's £8 a day for a fortnight gone, pretty much.

Oldernotwiser

Damzel_In_Distress wrote: »

Im offended you would think its through my own "bad" choice im in this situation..the council will NOT pay rent for a flat when you have children UNLESS its on the ground floor.

Absolute rubbish! I've just spent the last 5 years living below a lone parent who was on benefits. There's no such rule as far as claiming LHA goes.

PasturesNew

beingjdc wrote: »

You'd think, wouldn't you. I just spent £20 at Iceland and £10 at the Co-op, which feels like a lot, but it has made me 4 portions of stew, 3 of Balti, 2 of Jalfrezi, 2 of Madras, 4 of brothy-soup (well, I watered down the stew), 4 of garlic and chilli spaghetti, and breakfast cereal for a month.

You've broken the Forum rules. It is compulsory that when you mention food, you supply your MSE recipe for it!

beingjdc wrote: »

It's the things you don't expect. Wetherspoons set me back £14 yesterday, and if you go to the cinema, even on an Orange Wednesday, you're £15 down. Then if we have a weekend away, between train tickets and a B&B, that's £8 a day for a fortnight gone, pretty much.

Wetherspoons has never set me back £14. £5 max if I had to get a full round in. I go to the cinema once every 3-5 years, only recently found out about Orange Wednesdays but won't be going (not sure what it's really about/if you have to have Orange or what). Never had a weekend away.

We clearly lead different lifestyles.

Mine's more likely to be: half a diet coke in a Wetherspoons once every 2 months, watch a film on TV that I stumble across, visit parents once a year (Xmas) and drive (£50).



You're a posh 'un aren't you!

emweaver

cocktail wrote: »

[quote=Damzel_In_Distress;17337299]yes its rubbish...my friend it sent round to these peoples homes twice a week to put money onto their gas and electric meters paid for by manchester city council. it is part of his job..yet no one is coming round to my house to put free money onto my meters are they??? ....maybe i should leave the country and come back in a few years as an imigrant and i might get the same thing eh?...its not rubbish--this IS what he does.

there is a difference between immigrants and asylum seekers.
immigrants unless they are naturalised into citizens(that takes years) do not get any benefits. asylum seekers on the other hand get benefits.
immigrants do not get social housing.
the folk u r talking about are perhaps asylum seekers . i agree with u about them getting too much, this is where the policy has to change.[/quote]


The government should think twice about letting asylum seekers in and concentrate on supporting those that have paid into the system! That will help us a bit with the coming recessions surely!