What happens to state benefit in a recession

Damzel_In_Distress

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I asked before, and I don't think you answered - are you intending to become a lawyer, or is it something that just interests you?

sorry i must of missed the question-yes i am intending..well going to give a damn good attempt at becoming a barrister,although i no how bloody long this whole things take and thats the only things i dislike about it,it was something i was going to do before i had my son,but they he popped up,so ive been re-looking into starting it for the past year and have got all the information i need about everything and anything about it now,so im very well prepared,as if im going to do it i dont want to do it by half and then give up! im going to make sure i do it properly and finish it even if it kills me !!

Paulgonnabedebtfree

Damzel_In_Distress wrote: »

Yeh my house is literally the only place i could find anywhere near close to my family-and its still not even that close!....the damp is beyond a joke..its truly awful...and ive got chronic asthma which cant be treated normally as im allergic to steroids so its just not nice at all.

i have a gas meter which to put on for 4 hours gas costs around £7.40 i worked out..and obviously i cant afford to do that every day!! ..ive contacted the gas company several times saying that somethin seems wrong with the meter,sometimes it charges me for things i havnt done for example..but they REFUSE to send someone out and say unless it completly brakes down,its not there "policy" to send people out to things that seem slightly "irrelevant"....shame its not irrelevant to me eh??
being cold is one of the worst things i think compared to everything else,especially which a little boy,but cause the damp is so bad in the house and has been according to the neighbours for over 10 years,no ammount of heating changes anything anyway! so ive got blankets all over the sofa,and most of the time have to bring my quilt down too..i was actually really grateful when a family friend bought me a very very thick black velour dressing gown for xmas as it is very warm and has made a diffrence to me feeling the cold thankfully,best xmas gift ive ever had in terms of things needed!! lol

I wouldn't normally post something like this but it sounds like the meter is overdue to acquire a more serious fault.

Damzel_In_Distress

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

It is rubbish. Absolute rubbish, your mate is spinning you a line. Immigrants do not get everything handed to them on a plate.

You do get free money, into your bank account, remember?

why is it free?? ..i have paid tax just like everyone else for several years before i had my son two years ago..isnt that the point of tax,incase you ever need anything from the government??

beingjdc

Damzel_In_Distress wrote: »

why is it free?? ..i have paid tax just like everyone else for several years before i had my son two years ago..isnt that the point of tax,incase you ever need anything from the government??

No, you're thinking of insurance.

The point of tax is to raise the money required to spend on the things mandated by the people we elect. There's no individual correlation between paying the tax and getting the service, that's why you don't get a rebate for sending your kids to private school, or getting an operation from BUPA. Equally, millionaires don't get extra services even though they pay more tax.

Damzel_In_Distress

beingjdc wrote: »

No, you're thinking of insurance.

The point of tax is to raise the money required to spend on the things mandated by the people we elect. There's no individual correlation between paying the tax and getting the service, that's why you don't get a rebate for sending your kids to private school, or getting an operation from BUPA. Equally, millionaires don't get extra services even though they pay more tax.

fair enough,my mistake,i just think of insurance and tax as going hand in hand and either way,ive paid both!

beingjdc

Damzel_In_Distress wrote: »

fair enough,my mistake,i just think of insurance and tax as going hand in hand and either way,ive paid both!

Not national insurance. National insurance is tax, it's just got a silly name.

I mean insurance like your teeth falling out, your cat getting sick, your car being stolen, or your house burning down. Getting the benefits from them is related to what you pay. Tax (including national insurance) isn't.

Except things like SERPS and married woman's stamp, I suppose, but they're a fringe issue here.

Damzel_In_Distress

lol sorry i have just noticed your "Hurrah, now I have more thankings than postings, cheers everyone!" gave me a strange need for a chuckle.lol

beingjdc

Damzel_In_Distress wrote: »

lol sorry i have just noticed your "Hurrah, now I have more thankings than postings, cheers everyone!" gave me a strange need for a chuckle.lol

I'm on a mission to be at double by Spring, but it would seem like begging to say so in my signature...

Damzel_In_Distress

beingjdc wrote: »

I'm on a mission to be at double by Spring, but it would seem like begging to say so in my signature...

Hahaha,i might follow you around the forum now thanking you for well...anything! lol i like a challange..maybe just my thanks will get your figure doubled!LOL

huntersc

beingjdc wrote: »

No, you're thinking of insurance.

The point of tax is to raise the money required to spend on the things mandated by the people we elect. There's no individual correlation between paying the tax and getting the service, that's why you don't get a rebate for sending your kids to private school, or getting an operation from BUPA. Equally, millionaires don't get extra services even though they pay more tax.

Although people don't have the right to directly reclaim the tax they have paid they are certainly entitled to the safety net provided by the tax payer via the welfare state.

It's fair for someone to suggest that they are entitled to benefits if they are in position where they need them. We collect tax, in part, to pay for those that need help, I'm very much aware of how much I pay in and would feel hard done by if someone suggested I was getting free money if I became disabled or couldn't work. I would make the point that the OP made, I paid into a system that provides welfare, I am entitled to that very same welfare.