Is CSA1 an exact science? (if so where can I get a copy of the formula) -merged-

kelloggs36

Look, feel free to PM me with a total breakdown of your last assessment. I can then at least advise whether you will indeed get a reduction if you win on the housing costs issue.

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kelloggs36 wrote: »

If you actually worked your basic hours, then you may have a case,

I really hope so.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

but you appear to be actually working more than your basic hours on a regular basis which means that the CSA must assess you on them. "It is a one off, in summer 2007, but with this crazy assessment I had been forced to work as a night coach driver to make up the time and up goes the assessment. Eventually the cookie crumbles." On one hand you are saying it is a one off, and then say you work as a night driver which implies that you do in fact work over and above your basic wage. You say it was a one off in Summer 2007 - how long over the Summer? One week would be a one off, a whole Summer would be regular and must be taken into account. At the time that the hours reduce back to regular, basic hours you apply for a supse (new assessment) based on your reduced hours - you send in 2 consecutive payslips which include the relevant week and they look at it again.

I have gathered all my payslips worked my salary over an average 52 year. I take holiday or sick leave and im scuppered! My yearly take home is nothing close to what the CSA are assesming me for. There are other bus drivers at my garage who pay absolute zip, others who pay just 20% for two children based on their 40 hours week. Its unfair I am being screwed over in this way.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

If you send in the wrong payslips, then that is your problem, not the CSA's!

Like you, the CSA asked for the last two months pay slips. If the CSA then says I have done it wrong there is little else I can do.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

Rather than keep arguing for it to be backdated (as it won't be because you didn't send in the correct info) you just submit a further 2 consecutive payslips showing that you work your basic hours and then you get your new, lower assessment.

Already done, several times, and done again now. And my employer has delayed telling the CSA my change of circumstances right until the sixth day after I formally leave. A day later the CSA gets my letter.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

The problem is that you are working overtime so any assessment will be based on that - you need to actually work your reduced hours to be able to get the lower assessment!!

Snap!

kelloggs36 wrote: »

You don't understand how the assessments work

You are most certainaly correct. Its been quite educational since I came here.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

clearly from your list of demands that you wish the CSA to pay for. Even if you were given the full housing costs, doesn't mean that you get a £ for £ reduction in the assessment. The council tax doesn't get deducted at the exempt income stage anyway and so often has no effect on the amount you actually pay - it is given as an allowance in your protected income and in many cases, you still end up paying the full amount!

So how does an NRP make good the difference and meet his council tax obligation?

kelloggs36 wrote: »

If you can't afford to pay your council tax then that is not the CSA's fault legally.

Council tax benefit works only when I am not working. This suggests the CSA formula is fundamentally flawed because it doesn not take into acount council tax. It explains why I am financially better off by signing on.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

I dont' think you can actually sue the CSA for damages - you can only ask for a special payment which as I outlined, will be in the region of £100 - £250 if they are proven to be wrong.

Have you actually completed the forms asking for an appeal? You need to complete specific forms and then they will look at the case again.

I filled in plenty of forms, they dont mean much to me. Can you show me what the appeal form looks like? (link please) I can say whether I have seen it before. I didnt scan any completed CSA forms before returning them, I only have my own letters on file. Ive asked the CSA for the files, still awaiting.

kelloggs36 wrote: »

You will be notified of the outcome. If you disagree you can then ask for a tribunal hearing. You appear to have done neither, hence the appeal is out of time.

What legislation says I am out of time, and what is that time limit? Is this an Act of Parliament or CSA regulations? (links please)

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kelloggs36 wrote: »

Why don't you apply for your data protection file, that may show the decision on which they based your non-dependent status.

Its done, awaiting the bundle.

It sems the CSA makes the accusation (for what better word) that I am a non dependant and I have burden of proof to show to the contrary. I understand the CSA can look in the councils records. I will contend the CSA is vexatious because the CSA had the means to put things right, instead it made wild claims i shares the house with the landlord and judges me on it and dod not have any facts to prove it.

Its like a council tax bailiff telling me to prove I dont own my roommates cars sitting outside. I have no access to their documents but the bailiff could have checked with DVL, Instead he levied, and the county court defrocked him. That was one more taken off the streets.

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

What legislation says I am out of time, and what is that time limit? Is this an Act of Parliament or CSA regulations? (links please)

Why are you asking everyone else to do the groundwork for you? Everyone else that has issues with the CSA takes time to do the research as tedious as that may seem. Google is a wonderful thing.

kelloggs36

The information is out there if you look for it!

Regarding your payslips - can you list the gross pay per month for a whole year? pm me if you don't want to put it on here. If I can see your assessment compared to your income I can advise in more detail, but I can't do that at the moment because it is all over the place.

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Fran wrote: »

Re attitudes, I think you should forget about that side of things, it seems to be taken up too much energy.

Good point, Since I added the trolls on this thread to my ignore list, we have made excellent progress.

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kelloggs36 wrote: »

Regarding your payslips - can you list the gross pay per month for a whole year?

Basic £12,000 before tax.

Added up the last 12 months gross pay is £16907.76 (01 December 07 to Decenmber 08) including the overtime.

Countryboy

Please can anyone give me some information regarding CSA1 assessments. Kelloggs 36 seems to be knowledgeable on this subject.

I have a net income of £300 per week my partner also earns the same. Our mortgage is £615 per month, council tax £132 per month and I pay £125 into a pension. I also travel 25 miles each way to work so have very high fuel costs.

Is someone able to give me some idea as to what my assessment should be.

Forgot to add I am paying for one child.

Many thanks


Countryboy

Merry_Gentry

Countryboy wrote: »

Please can anyone give me some information regarding CSA1 assessments. Kelloggs 36 seems to be knowledgeable on this subject.

I have a net income of £300 per week my partner also earns the same. Our mortgage is £615 per month, council tax £132 per month and I pay £125 into a pension. I also travel 25 miles each way to work so have very high fuel costs.

Is someone able to give me some idea as to what my assessment should be.

Forgot to add I am paying for one child.

Many thanks


Countryboy

Probably worth starting your own thread - blue button at top left of the page as it might get lost amidst this one.

Countryboy

Thanks but I can't seem to see a blue button to start a new thread.

Countryboy