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Where to start?....
First, footballers. Generally they come into wealth rather than being born into it. They suddenly earn a huge amount of money, buy awful tasteless things, waste the money, buy things to impress. As they grow up they stop being so silly and hopefully allow the money to be used in more sensible ways. Don't forget that many of these footballers are not very educated and invariably from a lower class level, they see more money than they ever thought they would and BANG, they buy 'tat to impress.
Judging wealth by what young male footballers do is not all that realistic is it?
As for your 42" Plasma, I can't remember the last time I saw someone that was wealthy watching television nevermind watching it on a plasma TV. The first sign of wealth? When you enter someone's house and you can't find the TV. The bigger the TV, the less wealthy the person is.
The same goes for cars. You think rich people go out and spend millions on cars? Some do yes but the majority are not interested in buying to impress. I know many wealthy people that wouldn't know what Hugo Boss is and couldn't care less. One particular person I know has a B+W television, a Skoda (nice it is too) and lives in a small flat in Knightsbridge. He also happens to own a G5 which takes him to wherever he wishes to go (very nice in the summer if you want to pop to St Tropez or even South Africa if you want a longer break).
The rich people I know don't drive around in X5s wearing Rockport or Diesel. Geneuinley, the way to tell if a person is financially insecure (or wants to show off wealth) is to look out for the X5 or the the Grand Sport or the Rockport shoes or the Diesel jeans.
The rich do not show off wealth.
Do I take pride in my appearance? Sure. I don't need to spend £500 on clothes to do so. I am currently wearing a pair of Sainsbury's jeans and a T shirt from, GAP I think it is. Socks from Sainsburys too. I own a Ford Fiesta.
I remember the days when I was young and silly. All my suits from OZB Bespoke, Berluti shoes etc. Then I grew up. Of course one thing I never did was spend £300 on a top from Stone Island or whatever the chavs are wearing nowadays,
So the next time you see someone in a Ferrari GTO250, stepping out of it in those Cox shoes, off into that glitzy apartment with it's 60" Plasma, don't strive for it, they're generally not liquid, MEWed most of it or at best are using their bonus shares as an asset base to cover it.
If you want to exude wealth then you don't do it by buying Diesel jeans or copying those footballers you keep harping on about. It's about being understated, the last thing I want to do is turn up at a dinner party with people I know are wealthy wearing a big BOSS badge on the front of my jumper.
Shop in ASDA, buy jeans from Tesco, your clothes and are not you. You do not need fancy pants to impress.
I am 25, not 55
The rich do not show off wealth?
Is it perhaps, the upper classes that do not show off wealth? I can think of many examples far beyond that of footballers that show off wealth. Any kind of today celebrity appears to show off wealth in some way, shape, or form. Richard Branson, 1 of the the richest men on the planet has his very own Island, why the need?
On the other hand, and to agree with your sentiments, i also know of 2 private consultants that drive around in a tatty old volvo, and are often seen mucking out their stables early on a sunday morning.
However, they are very well spoken, probably are of the upper class manner and they do live in a very nice home with a few acres of land. I suspect they too have an old black and white TV and are not of the show it off culture that many of us are accustomed too.
As to your other points.....I agree with you in some sentiments, i do not like tacky designer gear with big labels either but i do take pride in my appearance and wouldn't walk out the door in mismatched clothing, smelly and of an untidy nature.I missed that bit about Armani suits. Honestly, you're right to wince. No one in their right minds wears Armani, as I said earlier, a nice tailored suit, none of this high fashion rubbish. I see these wannabes running around with their Breitling watches thinking they're wearing what the rich do., Breitling? Patek Phillippe might be a better place to start. Of course that's an awful lot of mewing needed for that
Armani is so successful off the back of us ''chavs'' then it would appear;) Perhaps again, a narrow minded view
Probably the most known and respected worldwide designer brand of all time, but i suspect Prada/Gucci/LV/GV and the likes all fall under in your opinion anyway, the ''chav'' culture.0 -
I am 25, not 55

Is it perhaps, the upper classes that do not show off wealth? I can think of many examples far beyond that of footballers that show off wealth, any kind of today celebrity appears to show off wealth in some way shape or form. On the other hand, and to agree with your sentiments, i also know of 2 private consultants that drive around in a tatty old volvo, and are often seen mucking out their stables early on a sunday morning.
However, they are very well spoken, probably are of the upper class manner and they do live in a very nice home with a few acres of land. I suspect they too have an old black and white TV and are not of the show it off culture that many of us are accustomed too.
As to your other points.....I agree with you in some sentiments, i do not like tacky designer gear with big labels either but i do take pride in my appearance and wouldn't walk out the door in mismatched clothing, smelly and of an untidy nature.
Armani is so successful off the back of us ''chavs'' then it would appear;) Perhaps again, a narrow minded view
Probably the most known and respected worldwide designer brand of all time, but i suspect Prada/Gucci/LV/GV and the likes all fall under in your opinion anyway, the ''chav'' culture.
Celebrities in general are not rich. You get the odd Pris Hilton but the others, the pop stars, the Big Brother people, the 'IT' crowd, they don't really have money, they aspire to be rich and therefore buy the things that they think will get them in Boujis. They want to look a certain way, be seen to be fabulously wealthy, generally they're not, they go back to their normal flat or house, pour the Radox into the bath and hope they can get a bit more credit next month to pay for the next big night out. I used to see these people in places like The Sanderson all the time. They may all be carrying Louis Vuitton but they're just doing it to show others how far they have come.
You also seem to be offering a false dichotomy. Just because you buy clothes from ASDA doesn't mean you are smelly and in mismatched clothing. You can look perfectly good and smell nice too.
Here's a little secret, those Diesel Jeans that fit oh so well, that last longer than the cheap jeans from the supermarket...Well...Don't tell anyone...
They're all made in the same Chinese factory by the same Chinese workers. The only difference is the size of the label.
If you really want to impress people though, here's a tip. You don't do it by shopping at USC or buying PRADA. Buy your shoes at https://www.berluti.com get your suits at https://www.brioni.it etc You could even employ Ozwald himself to tailor you up. http://www.ozwaldboateng.co.uk/main.html
Buying high fashion like GUCCI etc is a bit lame. Very much frowned upon in money circles too. Rurn up with a pair of Patrick Cox shoes and people will wonder who dragged you up
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I think 'class' is so much more than the clothes that you wear and the the car that you drive. Some people have it and some people don't.
I know people who have lots of class but little money. I know people with money who wear tatty clothes all of the time and who drive the tattiest of cars. Some who have been awarded medals by HM The Queen (got dressed up for that one).
I know even more people with loads of money but no class. People who like to show off their wealth. I guess they are happy and it doesn't bother me. I like people to buy things with a high VAT bill attached. Saves me being screwed for even more tax.
I know people with nowt who give to charity and rich people who give nowt.
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Plenty of designer clobber to be had in charity shops in affluent areas"An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".
!!!!!! is all that about?0 -
Since I've started using charity shops;
2 Lacoste shirts, Ralph Lauren shirt, Gant shirt, Lambretta shirt, 1 pair of Stone Island jeans
The good lady wife diesel jeans and citizens of humanity jeans.
The little man Guess jeans Ralph Lauren shirt, 2 OshKosh jackets.
All the above are in very good condition and cost in total about the price of a pair of jeans in USC.
I would go into a place like USC once every six months or so to get a 'treat' shirt, not any longer, most of the people buying in these shops do so on cc's and probably don't pay the balance in full, credit as we all know has to be paid back."An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".
!!!!!! is all that about?0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »My parents see labels on the outside of clothes as vulgar. But then I don't think they've ever been to this chain of shops - I hadn't heard of them before this thread.
I agree 100% with your parents, NDG. You can tell true designer clothes buy the uniqueness, the tailoring/cut and the quality of fabric. When you have to advertise in ten foot letters accross the front of your jumper, the likelihood is that the abovementioned qualities of fine clothes are missing.
I think design houses sell this rubbish to the poorer people as an extra income stream, but it is far removed from the £2200 Chanel dress where you have to really look hard to find the CC logo anywhere!I'll have some cheese please, bob.0 -
Seriously? I thought it's a shop for chavs that want to buy overpriced clothes with massive labels on. Don't they stock £500 Stone Island jumpers and £300 YSL jeans etc?
Go to Sainsburys or George at ASDA. Jeans for £5, Jumper for £6, shoes for £10, you can kit out your wardrobe for £50 rather than £50k from places like USC.
Silly shop.
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Yes, I was right, look at this crap: http://www.usc.co.uk/G-Star%20Buck%20Teddy%20Knit/00116680303800,default,pd.html?cgid=MD
and £450 for a Diesel coat? http://www.usc.co.uk/Diesel%20Lelxlea%20Leather%20Jacket/00102010303010,default,pd.html?cgid=10000
Now that people have stopped getting silly credit and withdrawing equity from their houses these kinds of shops are bound to close down. The only people that shop there are those that buy on plastic. People with money would never dream of entering a place like that.
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lol!!!! to be honest the credit crunch doesnt affect me much, i have nothign on credit,and only pay for what i can afford.
a lot of usc stuff doesnt have big names on the outside of the clothes!!!
but i am partial to gio goi clothing, and to diesel. i think they make good quality stuff!!!THANK MEEE:j0 -
I don't understand how wearing designer clothing makes you a chav.
I thought the true definition os a chav was Will Young, and all them dodgy people?!0
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