Boom-time on benefits: The 140,000 families who claim £20,000 a year in handouts

mewbie_2

Here's one family who get millions every year, it's a disgrace!! Some of them are foreigners, and live in palaces!!!

2006. "The total cost of keeping the monarchy in the last financial year rose by 4.2 per cent to £37.4 million, royal accountants said"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/royal-family-cost-62p-per-person-405824.html

neverdespairgirl

olly300 wrote: »

It's the government's fault.

If they weren't so stupid, and considering most of them are solicitors and barristers, they would have written into the law that you cannot claim child tax credits etc unless the child was resident in the UK.

I don't think it is. It's part of the EU treaties on freedom of movement and freedom of labour, IIRC.

mvengemvenge

mewbie wrote: »

Here's one family who get millions every year, it's a disgrace!! Some of them are foreigners, and live in palaces!!!

2006. "The total cost of keeping the monarchy in the last financial year rose by 4.2 per cent to £37.4 million, royal accountants said"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/royal-family-cost-62p-per-person-405824.html

Yeah, we should never have taken them in. If only they taught hindsight at school...

http://newsbiscuit.com/article/balls-announces-hindsight-to-be-taught-in-schools-436

mewbie_2

It's all too easy to pick on benefit claimants, they don't have so much of a voice. There's plenty of other people who deserve, and could afford, to have their standard of living questioned.

Once you've sorted out the royal claimants, here's another lot with their snouts in the trough.

Here's a list of MP's who employ family members.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2242795/MP-expenses-Who-employs-family-members.html

wigglebeena

mewbie wrote: »

Here's one family who get millions every year, it's a disgrace!! Some of them are foreigners, and live in palaces!!!

2006. "The total cost of keeping the monarchy in the last financial year rose by 4.2 per cent to £37.4 million, royal accountants said"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/royal-family-cost-62p-per-person-405824.html

Ah yes, the Royals - Kings and Queens of all work-dodging benefit scrounging white trash chavsters!

What about when one of their blimmin palaces had a fire and Queenie wanted our taxes to pay for it - extra, on top of what they normally mug us for? Karen Matthews learnt all she knows from our Dear Leaders.

caveman38

cocktail wrote: »

Personally I dont believe any government body has a clue what goes on at grass roots level.If it were the case why was the English gentleman on radio 2 a cpl of weeks ago ,moved to Finland in the 80,s has now retired and gets a full state pension. He hasnt paid any stamps in for the last 22 yrs .He doesnt qualify for it as he hasnt contributed any stamps for all of those yrs.

Even he admitted he didnt understand why.It wasnt anecdotal he was interviewed by phone...

So to sum up, if the government doesnt know who is eligable for a pension then how can they tell who should get any of the benefits??????????

The government hasnt got a clue..:rolleyes:

probably true. as regards the polish and and the supposed tutorials for them on how to claim benefits. why not?? if they are entitled to it under EU law its still legal isn't it. the problem lies with the policies of the government.[/quote]

Why not? I'll tell you why not. Because it is my and my 2 lads Income Tax / NI that pay for it and given a say we wouldn't want to lose 50% of our wages to support the rest of the world.

mouche

mvengemvenge wrote: »

Yes, that drives me mad. I'm surprised they haven't started doing it for non-EU people as well.

Possibly because non EU people don't get child benefit at all if they are here legally. Many non EU people I know send their children back home to grandparents because they can't afford to keep them here. Others, like myself, delay having kids until they have saved enough to be able to afford them.

olly300

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I don't think it is. It's part of the EU treaties on freedom of movement and freedom of labour, IIRC.

Yep you are right.

I found it on an Irish website:

Child Benefit and EU Regulations

EU/EEA citizens and Swiss nationals working in Ireland, satisfy the habitual residence condition for Child Benefit.

If you are an EU/EEA citizen or a Swiss national and work in a country covered by EU Regulations, the country you work in usually pays Child Benefit even if your family is living in another country. However, if your children are living in another EU/EEA country you should still apply for any Family Benefits you are entitled to there.

If the Family Benefit you get in the country your children are living is less than the Child Benefit payment here, your Irish Child Benefit payment will make up the difference. For more information on how EU rules affect Child Benefit, contact the Child Benefit Section (see 'Where to apply' below).

Countries covered by EU Regulations are: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom (excluding the Channel Islands).

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/social-welfare-payments-to-families-and-children/child_benefit

olly300

caveman38 wrote: »

probably true. as regards the polish and and the supposed tutorials for them on how to claim benefits. why not?? if they are entitled to it under EU law its still legal isn't it. the problem lies with the policies of the government.

Why not? I'll tell you why not. Because it is my and my 2 lads Income Tax / NI that pay for it and given a say we wouldn't want to lose 50% of our wages to support the rest of the world.[/quote]

Then you and/or your lads should go off and live in another EU country and claim their benefits.:p

One of the issues though is that according to the Irish website you put in claims in both countries and Ireland pay the difference of the balance.

However according to stories in the UK media the HMRC doesn't do this and has a policy of pay first and check later leading to fraud.

Anyway the Polish who claim the benefits have actually got of their behinds and worked. More than can be said for some British citizens.

mewbie_2

I thought I'd do a minimal research on these amazing benefits. After all - why am I bothering to work?

So Express headline screams out £30,000 a year paid in benefits.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/77542/Thousands-of-unemployed-get-%A330,000-a-year/

A closer look.

A family of two healthy non-working adults and two healthy children paying rent of £100 a week and a monthly council tax bill of £108 could collect more than £16,100 a year in benefits.

That sum is made up of more than £4,700 in tax credits, £4,950 in Jobseeker’s Allowance, housing benefit of £5,214 and council tax benefit of £1,296.

So lets take rent and council tax off - after all even the unemployed have a right to shelter don't they? That actually leaves £9,650 for two adults and two kids to live on. £185 per week. £26.50 a day.

I think I'll carry on working for now. But maybe some of you lot complaining fancy swapping - after all it's easy money for doing nothing. Just think what you could do with £26.50 a day.