Boom-time on benefits: The 140,000 families who claim £20,000 a year in handouts

leveller2911

cocktail wrote: »

Are you sure about this???

Read the passage below to understand why we Brits are so upset and angry. As a taxpayer perhaps you should be too!!!!!!!!!

"Polish workers are using EU rules to make sure they can keep receiving handouts which are worth DOUBLE what they would get back home. They are being given master classes in how to obatin them. At least 50,000 Poles have left Britain in just three months because of the economic downturn, government figures show. And Polish job centres have now started courses to tell people how to claim benefits, according to daily newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza..."source Metro.co.uk 4th November 2008

My dad works in the home office and he confirms that a non -eu immigrant gets no benefits. NHS and statutory maternity leave are the only 'benefits' for obvious legal reasons. they have to pay full N.I. contributions and taxes.
Polish workers are EU aren't they
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Personally I dont believe any government body has a clue what goes on at grass roots level.If it were the case why was the English gentleman on radio 2 a cpl of weeks ago ,moved to Finland in the 80,s has now retired and gets a full state pension. He hasnt paid any stamps in for the last 22 yrs .He doesnt qualify for it as he hasnt contributed any stamps for all of those yrs.

Even he admitted he didnt understand why.It wasnt anecdotal he was interviewed by phone...

So to sum up, if the government doesnt know who is eligable for a pension then how can they tell who should get any of the benefits??????????

The government hasnt got a clue..:rolleyes:

climbingoutoftheabyss

I was made redundant in October (luckily I found another job at the start of December). I have worked continuously for 25 years and was astonished that I didn't qualify for any benefits on the basis that my wife works part time (the legal limit is that if you have more than £95 a week income as a household that you have enough to live on - my wife earns £500 a month and they expected us to live on that!).

On the day my non-award came through it was on the news that Karen Matthews (who had never worked a day in her life) had been receiving over £400 a week in benefits.

And we wonder why this country is in a mess!

~Brock~

climbingoutoftheabyss wrote: »

On the day my non-award came through it was on the news that Karen Matthews (who had never worked a day in her life) had been receiving over £400 a week in benefits.

I heard she was pregnant again.....apparently an attempt to qualify for a bigger cell :rotfl:

DW123_2

climbingoutoftheabyss wrote: »

I was made redundant in October (luckily I found another job at the start of December). I have worked continuously for 25 years and was astonished that I didn't qualify for any benefits on the basis that my wife works part time (the legal limit is that if you have more than £95 a week income as a household that you have enough to live on - my wife earns £500 a month and they expected us to live on that!).

It's great here innit.

They don't take household income into account when they're calculating your tax. Just when they're paying out benefits. Just think how much extra cash you would have had if they had calculated your tax the way they calculate your benefits!!

cocktail

Personally I dont believe any government body has a clue what goes on at grass roots level.If it were the case why was the English gentleman on radio 2 a cpl of weeks ago ,moved to Finland in the 80,s has now retired and gets a full state pension. He hasnt paid any stamps in for the last 22 yrs .He doesnt qualify for it as he hasnt contributed any stamps for all of those yrs.

Even he admitted he didnt understand why.It wasnt anecdotal he was interviewed by phone...

So to sum up, if the government doesnt know who is eligable for a pension then how can they tell who should get any of the benefits??????????

The government hasnt got a clue..:rolleyes:[/quote]

probably true. as regards the polish and and the supposed tutorials for them on how to claim benefits. why not?? if they are entitled to it under EU law its still legal isn't it. the problem lies with the policies of the government.

Simons-Photography

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

I'm happy to support anybody who finds themselves unemployed or unable to work through ill health.

However, I'm not so happy to support the unemployable or those who make themselves ill in order to claim benefits.

I know of a couple who lived on benefits until their children fled the nest and the benefits stopped. They adopted a grandchild to kickstart the benefits again.

We need a system that is seen to be fair to all - claimants and taxpayers.

GG

quite true many people make money having kids, personally i would just stop child benefit after 2 children and make sure it is not enough to make having kids a replacement for a job. I know people will get raged at this and say its not the kids fault and we must have it fair for all. well sorry but life is not necesarily fair we can only do our best to make it reasonably so. if future child benefit was remodeled it might stop very young and irresponsable (not to mention lazy yes i have 1st hand experience) so called adult people (and less young for that matter) from having children and then not bringing them up proporely just so they can rake in the benefits. people are made to feel bad for being unemployed but a blind eye is turned on the shameful rip off we all get from child benefit as a job replacement.

The goverment of course will never get things straight after all whilst people loose their jobs by the hundreds making the jump in unemployment by over a million now they have plans to force the unemployed and disabled back to work. I suppose this was the result of one of their "think tanks" who obviously sit and think in the dark oblivious of the world outside.

if the goverment wants to save moeny there are many other ways to do it, perhaps not running around america's backside and doing just what they say would help, we never ever had any business in Iraq why are we still there ?

mummytofour

One thing that really annoys me ( forgive me if I am wrong) that those such as the Polish ( EU citizens) who come to work in the UK can leave their families at home in Poland, yet still claim child tax credits for these children and send the money home.

mvengemvenge

mummytofour wrote: »

One thing that really annoys me ( forgive me if I am wrong) that those such as the Polish ( EU citizens) who come to work in the UK can leave their families at home in Poland, yet still claim child tax credits for these children and send the money home.

Yes, that drives me mad. I'm surprised they haven't started doing it for non-EU people as well.

cocktail

[quote=mummytofour;17250379]One thing that really annoys me ( forgive me if I am wrong) that those such as the Polish ( EU citizens) who come to work in the UK can leave their families at home in Poland, yet still claim child tax credits for these children and send the money home.[/quote]


EU was basically a misconcieved idea. its like having something like 15-16 partners in a business model for example there going to be some well off and some not so well off.
ain't gonna work. if the well off feel that they are being ripped off by the other partners then thay should come out of the partnership

olly300

mummytofour wrote: »

One thing that really annoys me ( forgive me if I am wrong) that those such as the Polish ( EU citizens) who come to work in the UK can leave their families at home in Poland, yet still claim child tax credits for these children and send the money home.

It's the government's fault.

If they weren't so stupid, and considering most of them are solicitors and barristers, they would have written into the law that you cannot claim child tax credits etc unless the child was resident in the UK.