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  • UKTigerlily
    UKTigerlily Posts: 4,702 Forumite
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    If that is so how is it possible that I can easily maintain my lower weight status even though I daily eat more calories than required for my Daily Basic metabolic rate and because of my underlying condition lead a relatively sedentary life style?

    When I was eating carbs I was gaining weight.

    When I ate strictly according to this plan not eating as many carbs I lost weight.

    If I now include refined carbohydrates I gain weight.

    My weight gain/loss scenario is determined by my refined carbohydrate/alcohol intake.

    If all calories are equal as far as weight gain is concerned how come experiments like this show certain oils predispose to increased weight gain?

    If you studied the matter you may come to understand why I use Coconut oil

    Ask Slimming World? I didn't come up with their plan lol but it sure does work
  • Ask Slimming World? I didn't come up with their plan lol but it sure does work
    I'm not interested in wasting money. This is a MONEYSAVING WEBSITE and following This plan didn't cost me anything and because it cut down my cravings for food and booze it meant I not only ate less but also drank less so saved even more money.

    I really cannot see the logic in continuing to eat those foods that require your body to store surplus glucose as fat. If you don't eat carbohydrates you won't be have to store fat you use your fat reserves as they were intended.

    I doubt you lost more weight than I did each week for over 20 weeks and I'm certain it will have cost you more financial outlay and more time and effort.
    My weight loss following Doktor Dahlqvist' Dietary Program
    Start 23rd Jan 2008 14st 9lbs Current 10st 12lbs
  • UKTigerlily
    UKTigerlily Posts: 4,702 Forumite
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    I'm not interested in wasting money. This is a MONEYSAVING WEBSITE and following This plan didn't cost me anything and because it cut down my cravings for food and booze it meant I not only ate less but also drank less so saved even more money.

    I really cannot see the logic in continuing to eat those foods that require your body to store surplus glucose as fat. If you don't eat carbohydrates you won't be have to store fat you use your fat reserves as they were intended.

    I doubt you lost more weight than I did each week for over 20 weeks and I'm certain it will have cost you more financial outlay and more time and effort.

    hmm I had no idea it was a competition, I was simply stating on SW (Which I don't do) you can eat as many carbs as you like, nothing more, nothing less. That's a fact. I'm not even slightly interested in what diets/healthy eating plans people do & so what if I only lost 3Ibs a week, you're only supposed to lose 1-2Ibs to be doing it healthily. Humans are supposed to eat carbs, but like anything it's up to the individual if they do or don't, I couldn't care less if others do or not, just saying you can easily lose weight eating them.

    I follow the eat less/exercise more/eat everything you like but in moderation approach. I am going back to WW for a few weeks in the New Year to get my mind back on track & that's it. If what you do works for you then good, but it's NOT a competition, it doesn't matter what way you diet, some will lose well on it, others will lose better on something else. 1-2Ibs a week is the right amount to lose, I lost more but had quite abit to lose & it'd have slowed down.
  • UKTigerlily
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    And nobody said you had to join SW! You asked ME how THEIR plan which THEY devised works by eating carbs alot, to know you need to ask them I don't have a clue, all I know is it works.
  • Nicki
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    The only way to lose weight and to keep weight off is by finding a diet which you can stick to, and which means that you take in fewer calories than you burn off. It is irrelevant whether this is a low fat, a low carb, a low cal or a low GI diet.

    Ted bangs on and on about low carb being the only diet which works, but in fact what he should be saying is that it is the only diet which works for him. Others find that their bodies crave carbohydrates too much, or that they feel so unwell on the diet, that they are unable to stick to it, and once they start eating carbs again the weight piles back on.

    I have tried Atkins and other low carb diets, and whilst I have lost a lot of weight quickly, I have never been able to stick to this way of eating as a long term thing, with the result that the weight has gone on again as quickly as it came off. On the other hand I find both low cal and low fat diets easy to stick to, and the weight stays off far longer after these diets for me, as this is a way of living I can stick with. When I last lost weight (about 3 stone) it was on a low cal diet to start off with, and a low fat diet for the last few weeks. It took about 6 months to lose the weight, and it all stayed off for well over 2 years. Sadly, I have drifted a little over the last few months, and have put a stone on again, which needs to be tackled. When I tried Atkins in the past, a stone came off in about 3 weeks, but by that stage I was feeling grim and desperate for bread, pasta and rice. As soon as I reintroduced these into my diet, even in small quantities, the weight went back on with more to boot, so within a month of stopping Atkins I was half a stone heavier than I'd been before I started it.

    This is not to say low carb doesn't work at all. I am quite sure (without having to read any pseudo-science please) that it does work for some people. However if OP has already said her diet is high in carbs, it seems unlikely that this will be a way of life she can stick to long term, and therefore a different approach is more likely to suit her better.
  • Well done on giving up smoking! You've tackled the hardest bit!

    I agree with the others, moderate exercise is a really useful tool in weightloss and in good health generally. However I'd say be a bit careful with swimming if you're asthmatic. I sometimes find the level of chlorine fumes catches my breath - in fact this has put me off swimming completely. Might not affect you but something to be wary of just in case....

    Lots of luck. I'm trying to figure out how to lose weight in the new year as well :) you're inspiring me.
  • Nicki wrote: »
    The only way to lose weight and to keep weight off is by finding a diet which you can stick to, and which means that you take in fewer calories than you burn off
    If that were true I would be gaining weight, as I eat more calories each day than I burn off in exercise or need for my basal metabolism.

    If all calories are equal as far as weight gain is concerned how come experiments like this show certain oils predispose to increased weight gain? If it were true that all calories are equal as far as fat accumulation were concerned we would see no difference in weight gain depending, in this case on the type of oil used as each diet contained the same calorie count.
    It is irrelevant whether this is a low fat, a low carb, a low cal or a low GI diet.
    That simply isn't true.
    once they start eating carbs again the weight piles back on.
    Indeed that is true as it is the carbohydrate content that obliges the body to store fat rather than burn it.
    I have tried Atkins and other low carb diets, and whilst I have lost a lot of weight quickly, I have never been able to stick to this way of eating as a long term thing,
    But over the hundreds of thousands of years over which our DNA was being evolved refined carbohydrates and refined sugars were simply not available, that is why our DNA isn't best suited for dealing with this pseudo foods. What you are describing appears to be wheat or carb addiction and the way to cure addiction isn't to regularly consume those things you are addicted to through the day.

    therefore a different approach is more likely to suit her better.

    Slimming World Wiki information this sounds like it's based on pseudoscience to me. I can find any scientific basis for food combining. I think the food combining is a sneeky way of creating weight-loss through calorie-restriction.
    It simply wouldn't work for me as I like eating a lot.

    If you listen to Taubes Berkeley Lecture you will eventually understand that it is real and not pseudo science that he is talking about the sooner you understand the science behind the diet the sooner you will make progress.
    My weight loss following Doktor Dahlqvist' Dietary Program
    Start 23rd Jan 2008 14st 9lbs Current 10st 12lbs
  • hmm I had no idea it was a competition.

    :rotfl:

    too right!! - whatever works for you works for you! Ted H, chill out!!

    If we can have a competition for putting weight on bet a tenner I could beat you tho!:rotfl:
  • sparrer
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    Oh dear, whenever I start a new thread somebody seems to upset somebody else. This is about whats right for the person, not the whole world, we're all different and so are our metabolisms. Some years ago I went to SW and had some success with their programme so I can't criticise it. Someone elses preferred methods I know nothing about except that I've read the links and know it wouldn't suit me personally. Please let's be nice.

    I set out for a short walk this morning, got to the end of the road (only 5 houses away) but even though I was wrapped up it was so cold I came back :o . I have 2 fit young men (son and friend) in my house atm with their weights, bench, rowing machine, twisty thing and stretchy thing. I'm tempted by the rowing machine, might give it a try when they're out tomorrow.

    I read on the British Lung Foundation site (thank you for the link noonesperfect) that hairspray and perfume are no-go items for copd, bit peeved cos I was given some very expensive perfume for Christmas! Ah well, DGD will like it ;)
  • UKTigerlily
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    lmao @ SW wouldn't work as like eating alot, that's what u do on SW u can eat non stop if u like! No weighing, no counting points, nothing! Used to shock me I ate so much more than normal.

    Aww sparrer i'm sure whoever DGD is they'll love it! lol now now no coming back cause it's cold! Quick run round the block will do U! lol know what u mean tho I hate taking the dog at midnight it's freezing and she takes ages to find the spot!
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