Labour planning secret tax on 'nice houses'

fatpig_2

beingjdc wrote: »

and Josef Fritzl was a buy-to-let landlord.

No suprise there then.

louiser123

The_White_Horse wrote: »

they shouldn't have council flats/houses in nice areas.

i take exeception to this comment!
please tell us why council flats/houses shouldnt exist in nice areas???

before you jump in with another flippant comment and brand people ( seems you have no grip on the real world and live in a cocoon) i do not live in a council house or flat i live in a "nice suburban semi, with little mortgage and in nice area" BUT i do have friends who live in council houses and actually they are very nice, law abiding citizens, with morals and manners!!!

i also know a family who are "rich" and thier kids are both expelled from school and extremley anti social!!!

it really agrivates me when people like you come in with your high moral attitude and brand anyone who dares to live in a council property as scum, anyone who may be claiming benefits as unworthy.

"there but for the grace of god go i"" is a saying which comes to mind to me now and i sincerely hope you remain wrapped in your cotton wool ball, because if you are unfortunate enough to lose everything like a lot of people have and possibly will continue to do, you will not fair very well in your new world among the scum!!!

neverdespairgirl

pickles110564 wrote: »

Everybody enters this life with the same gift, it is then up to them how hard they work at school to learn (which of course is free to everyone) they then decide which path to take, it is up to them.
.

It's not quite that simple, though, surely?

I'm sure I'd have done a lot worse at school, had my parents not taught me to read, bought me books, helped me with my homework, encouraged me to be interested in things, and all the rest of it.

baileysbattlebus

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

It's not quite that simple, though, surely?

I'm sure I'd have done a lot worse at school, had my parents not taught me to read, bought me books, helped me with my homework, encouraged me to be interested in things, and all the rest of it.

I agree with you. If you have a poorly educated parent they are unable to help their children in the way a person with even a half decent education can.

When our children were young and starting school, we helped teach them to read and did far more work with them on an individual basis than the school could, it was the same with our grandson, the work came home every afternoon and every afternoon we did the work with him. We bought lots of books, some from library sales etc.

You end up with by about the age of 7 with a child who can read almost as well as an adult - they may not understand everything, but they can read it.

Quite a number of people in this country are barely literate and unable to help their children so the children start to fall behind before their education has really started. Some children are disruptive because they actually can't take part in lessons becuase of this, and lot of them aren't picked up by the schools early enough.

The poster who said her child can count and is 2, ours could all count by the age of 2, so could our grandson, the reason for this was, every time I went up or down stairs with them as babies I counted out the number of stairs - in this house the grandson could count to 13 by the time he could talk - because we have 13 stairs!

scousethife

beingjdc wrote: »

Neither does earning more money mean that I use more central government services (quite the opposite), but I pay more money because it's an income tax, just as Council Tax is a property tax.

We could just present everyone in the country with a flat-rate bill for the just-under £10,000 per person that Government spends, all-in, but that hasn't worked very well when it's been tried in the past.

True I agree, and there is NO one single fair system of taking tax.

But to take the same off an 18 year old working at Mcdonalds (£15000 per annum) as, lets say Frank Lampard (£130 000 per week) does seem massively unfair.

the best compromise system is based on income

SingleSue

baileysbattlebus wrote: »

I agree with you. If you have a poorly educated parent they are unable to help their children in the way a person with even a half decent education can.

When our children were young and starting school, we helped teach them to read and did far more work with them on an individual basis than the school could, it was the same with our grandson, the work came home every afternoon and every afternoon we did the work with him. We bought lots of books, some from library sales etc.

You end up with by about the age of 7 with a child who can read almost as well as an adult - they may not understand everything, but they can read it.

Quite a number of people in this country are barely literate and unable to help their children so the children start to fall behind before their education has really started. Some children are disruptive because they actually can't take part in lessons becuase of this, and lot of them aren't picked up by the schools early enough.

The poster who said her child can count and is 2, ours could all count by the age of 2, so could our grandson, the reason for this was, every time I went up or down stairs with them as babies I counted out the number of stairs - in this house the grandson could count to 13 by the time he could talk - because we have 13 stairs!

That sounds so like me! I was forever counting steps, stairs, items on the kitchen table etc and when they got older, throwing them maths questions to work out. Even in the recent sales where percentages are reduced off the marked price, I told the children how to work through it, covered up the price guide (nasty mum I am) and they had to work it out - pleased to say they all know how to do percentages now.

When my eldest son is sending a text or typing on msn, I am always correcting his spelling (and stopping his text speak grrr) and I encouraged him to read from a very young age despite his dyslexia - he now reads as much as me (his book collection could give a decent library a run for its money) and his reading age is well in excess of most of his peers.

Youngest son writes and illustrates his own comics and newspapers and he will always ask me how to spell something which he finds difficult, or he will check our dictionary - he takes hours and hours over these things as he has poor fine motor control and finds holding his pencils and pens rather difficult but he perseveres and the results are really quite good.

Middle son is not a reader (much to my angst) but he loves the natural world and will ask lots of questions about bugs and other eek things - this mother then has to go online and find out the information (I was never a bug person) but because of this interest, he has become rather good at science which I can help with.

My children do sometimes get bored of it (ok only my eldest), he will sometimes complain that I make everything educational as even the simplest shopping trip will turn into a maths lesson, or a visit to the park a science lesson but he is also the first to admit that these same 'boring' lessons have also given him the chance to be one of the few to be selected to take the higher route in his GCSE's by being streamed for triple science.

I know that all sounds rather pushy but it really isn't like that in real life, I don't stand there in teacher mode but will explain things when we see them or when they ask questions about something, so it isn't really that pushy.

Not bad eh from a single parent on benefits...rather goes against the grain of what is expected from a person like me :rolleyes: :rotfl:

louiser123

SingleSue wrote: »

That sounds so like me! I was forever counting steps, stairs, items on the kitchen table etc and when they got older, throwing them maths questions to work out. Even in the recent sales where percentages are reduced off the marked price, I told the children how to work through it, covered up the price guide (nasty mum I am) and they had to work it out - pleased to say they all know how to do percentages now.

When my eldest son is sending a text or typing on msn, I am always correcting his spelling (and stopping his text speak grrr) and I encouraged him to read from a very young age despite his dyslexia - he now reads as much as me (his book collection could give a decent library a run for its money) and his reading age is well in excess of most of his peers.

Youngest son writes and illustrates his own comics and newspapers and he will always ask me how to spell something which he finds difficult, or he will check our dictionary - he takes hours and hours over these things as he has poor fine motor control and finds holding his pencils and pens rather difficult but he perseveres and the results are really quite good.

Middle son is not a reader (much to my angst) but he loves the natural world and will ask lots of questions about bugs and other eek things - this mother then has to go online and find out the information (I was never a bug person) but because of this interest, he has become rather good at science which I can help with.

My children do sometimes get bored of it (ok only my eldest), he will sometimes complain that I make everything educational as even the simplest shopping trip will turn into a maths lesson, or a visit to the park a science lesson but he is also the first to admit that these same 'boring' lessons have also given him the chance to be one of the few to be selected to take the higher route in his GCSE's by being streamed for triple science.

I know that all sounds rather pushy but it really isn't like that in real life, I don't stand there in teacher mode but will explain things when we see them or when they ask questions about something, so it isn't really that pushy.

Not bad eh from a single parent on benefits...rather goes against the grain of what is expected from a person like me :rolleyes: :rotfl:

i totally agree with this and the other similar post.

your last comment too!! thats what makes me so mad you are a pillar of the community, doing a bl**dy good job with your children although some on here would disagree just because you are on benefits!!! you like i live in the reaL world thankfully.

lets hope the new year brings some changes for the better for us, happy new year and best wishes x

olly300

SingleSue wrote: »

When my eldest son is sending a text or typing on msn, I am always correcting his spelling (and stopping his text speak grrr)

You are actually far better of teaching him that certain language is used in certain situations for certain audiences.

It's amazing how many young adults don't know how to write business letters/emails or a letter/email to a colleague.

SingleSue

Yep, I have been known to also correct his friends with their text speak, they still think I am a cool mum though!

I also teach them languages (well it is a sort of loose connection to your mention of language, even though you didn't actually mean languages), when we went to France, they were not allowed to speak English when asking for things, they had to ask and converse in French.

The children have a good knowledge of French, Danish, Swedish and Japanese (I don't know Japanese but they have picked it up somewhere) plus a smattering of Polish, Croatian, Spanish, Italian and German.

neverdespairgirl

olly300 wrote: »

One thing I have to repeat quite frequently on these board that council housing isn't all specially built estates. Particularly in urban areas, councils found themselves taking over any sort of housing hence some councils are now trying to sell of listed and Victorian buildings because they can't afford the up keep.

In Camden, they have flogged off a few Georgian terrace town houses over the past few years. But there are also quite a few post-war estates built on bomb sites.