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PCN issued outside my home
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overlander wrote: »Plus you seem to be a little bit slow in picking up my main point so i will spell it out just for you Neil B.
This issue is much bigger than the silly little parking ticket you keep banging on about. The original poster has stated that they have always parked outside their house. So if they were to pay this one then thats it no more parking outside your house so every single car will not be allowed to park within those hours. My point is that this parking has been going on for years so obviously the yellow lines are pointless they have no safety or traffic implications.
So the original poster has to contact the council as they will have adopted the road and is their responsibility, keeping up are we.
They then have to discuss why the lines are there and if they are justified they then have to ask for resident parking permits. Not just pay the fine and hope the problem goes away
The 'silly little ticket' was the topic in hand. I understood this to be a help forum as I have already said. You seem intent on a personal and ill informed crusade which is not relevant to his current situation. Again I say that you appear to have no concern for any cost to the OP.
If there is a bigger issue, presumably the political one of 'oh they shouldn't do that', then start a thread for it rather than put of the OP and ruin their chances of feeling confident in appealing a PCN about which we as yet know very little.
Your idea that a sudden campaign to say it's unfair, after the horse has bolted, is frankly missguided. You will achieve nothing for him for the matter in hand.
I have no idea what the point of the yellow line is and neither do I much care. That is not my immediate area of interest but he can always take that matter up, with the support of neighbours, when the current issue is resolved.
Hey. I have an idea. I believe that the OP has actually been put off by your hijacking and detracting from the topic. May I make a suggestion? Make a point of encouraging him back.0 -
overlander wrote: »So if they were to pay this one then thats it no more parking outside your house so every single car will not be allowed to park within those hours.
On what basis? Parking is already restricted according to his description. Payment of a penalty can set no legal precedent. Even if he were foolish enough to take it to Adjudication based on your advice, and obviously lose, then neither would that set any legal precedent.
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The OP has knowingly parked on a yellow line and has not been fined before.
He has now been fined.
He has to pay the fine.
If he does not pay the fine the problem will not go away.
(edited your post only so that I may address the points I need to.)
It isn't the first time I've heard, effectively, 'we've been doing it for years so why now?'.
That said he did seem to openly agree he had parked in contravention. As for having to pay? I would rather have heard more of the story and seen the PCN just for starters. If the Council acted outside the law in the enforcement procedure then I do not see why he should pay.
I think, as I've said earlier, that the OP has been 'put off' responding (I'm confident the board management will take note and address the issue in future. Just as a start, the simple answer of 'What Council' could have meant so much.0 -
I lived in a town with lots of yellow lines. There was only one parking warden, so most of the time he stayed right IN the town, not venturing into the roads just outside. But come the summer they'd hire another 1-2, that was when the ticketing would start. Maybe somebody new started doing the route/town and wasn't as lazy as the usual one, who preferred to stroll along his usual streets only.0
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(edited your post only so that I may address the points I need to.)
It isn't the first time I've heard, effectively, 'we've been doing it for years so why now?'.
That said he did seem to openly agree he had parked in contravention. As for having to pay? I would rather have heard more of the story and seen the PCN just for starters. If the Council acted outside the law in the enforcement procedure then I do not see why he should pay.
I think, as I've said earlier, that the OP has been 'put off' responding (I'm confident the board management will take note and address the issue in future. Just as a start, the simple answer of 'What Council' could have meant so much.
Indeed, which is why I said in an earlier post if it was a legally issued PCN then the
OP should pay.
We have little info from the OP but overlander's "start a crusade- they can't do this to you" - is pretty pointless and less than helpful0 -
overlander wrote: »What more do you want me to say ALL PUBLIC ROADS ARE ADOPTED BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL.
Is that clear enough for you.
Just because you shout, doesnt make you right, in fact you are wrong! I guess you will still say you are right tho.0 -
Well, we don't have the right to park outside our own home.
Actually, I tell a lie. We are allowed to park there, but there are restrictions. It's something like no parking between 8am and 6pm during the week and all day at weekends.
We do have a resident's permit, but the closest we can park is a few streets away. We'd love to park outside our own home (OH would worry less about his car's safety if he could see it through the window!) but it's illegal.
People round here do try and park in our street during the restricted hours, but they get slapped with parking tickets regularly. The traffic warden starts his rounds at 8am on the dot in our street, so I'm not sure why anyone bothers trying to get away with it.
Anyway, my point is, whilst it would be lovely if everyone had the right to park outside their own home - they don't. We're proof of that. If you know it's illegal to park in your street, then I would suggest paying up and finding somewhere else to leave your car.0 -
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I was issued a PCN today at 13.48, right outside my own house :eek:
Contravention code 01 Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
I have lived at this address since June 2007 and never had a problem, there are single yellow lines on my road with signs saying that parking is only allowed for 1 hour during the hours of 07.30am to 6.30pm.
The houses on my road are all terraced with no off road parking space so everyone parks outside their homes on the street parking.
Please help, would i be successfull by challenging on the grounds that i am a resident of the road where my car was parked.
If there is a single yellow line applying between the hours of 7.30am and 6.30pm it means NO PARKING between those hours. Not sure where you understand it to mean parking is allowed for 1 hour? Is there a supplementary sign saying parking max stay for 1 hour outside of the single yellow line hours?0
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