PCN issued outside my home

Conor_3

overlander wrote: »

Unless the council can prove that parking their constitutes a danger of course they have.

!!!!!!!!. They don't own the bit of the street outside their house. It's in public ownership.

poet123

If the lines were put there some time ago and nobody challenged them when the restrictions were publicised(as they have to be by law)then once they are in situ you will have to pay up. We live close to a school and on a bend but in a cul de sac,it was mooted that double yellow lines be put outside our house. It was publicised,we fought it,we won. We now have resident parking.....and that is another story.

overlander

Conor wrote: »

!!!!!!!!. They don't own the bit of the street outside their house. It's in public ownership.

I think you will find that all public roads have been adopted by the local council.

Neil_B

overlander wrote: »

I think you will find that all public roads have been adopted by the local council.

As I said earlier, I had thought that the idea of the forum was to help people to appeal parking tickets of various kinds in the most effective way. perhaps I was wrong?

Instead I see you turning somebody's personal situation into an opportunity to vent your spleen with absolutely nothing to back up everything you say.

You appear to have no consideration for the OP and hence this will reflect on this fledgling forum as a whole via anyone reading.

Back up your claims with hard fact and reference to the relevant Legislation or shut up!
Every time you post rubbish like that above you later deny doing so? How odd?

overlander

What more do you want me to say ALL PUBLIC ROADS ARE ADOPTED BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL.

Is that clear enough for you.

overlander

Just in case you are still a little slow in the uptake.

http://www.medway.gov.uk/index/environment/roads/adoptroads.htm

Just as one example

overlander

Plus you seem to be a little bit slow in picking up my main point so i will spell it out just for you Neil B.

This issue is much bigger than the silly little parking ticket you keep banging on about. The original poster has stated that they have always parked outside their house. So if they were to pay this one then thats it no more parking outside your house so every single car will not be allowed to park within those hours. My point is that this parking has been going on for years so obviously the yellow lines are pointless they have no safety or traffic implications.

So the original poster has to contact the council as they will have adopted the road and is their responsibility, keeping up are we.

They then have to discuss why the lines are there and if they are justified they then have to ask for resident parking permits. Not just pay the fine and hope the problem goes away

poet123

overlander wrote: »

What more do you want me to say ALL PUBLIC ROADS ARE ADOPTED BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL.

Is that clear enough for you.

Rubbish,my road is partially adopted,meaning my side of the road is unadopted,therefore we technically own the land up to themiddle of the road. We had to allow the council leeway to bring in permit parking,we had to allow the cable people leeway to put cable TV in etc etc. We pay for our own footpath.

I know of several unadopted roads in my locale. All are public roads.

mymatebob

overlander wrote: »

Plus you seem to be a little bit slow in picking up my main point so i will spell it out just for you Neil B.

This issue is much bigger than the silly little parking ticket you keep banging on about. The original poster has stated that they have always parked outside their house. So if they were to pay this one then thats it no more parking outside your house so every single car will not be allowed to park within those hours. My point is that this parking has been going on for years so obviously the yellow lines are pointless they have no safety or traffic implications.

So the original poster has to contact the council as they will have adopted the road and is their responsibility, keeping up are we.

They then have to discuss why the lines are there and if they are justified they then have to ask for resident parking permits. Not just pay the fine and hope the problem goes away

The yellow lines are there for a reason - that none of us on here know.
The OP has knowingly parked on a yellow line and has not been fined before.
He has now been fined.
He has to pay the fine.
He can contact the council and ask why there is a yellow line.
They may well give him a valid reason.

Just because people do not get fined does not mean that there are no safety or other implications of their illegal parking.
If he does not pay the fine the problem will not go away.

It may be the OP cannot get parking permit as there is a yellow line - for some reason.

What exactly is your main point?

Neil_B

overlander wrote: »

What more do you want me to say ALL PUBLIC ROADS ARE ADOPTED BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL.

Is that clear enough for you.

Nope.

Anyone may create a 'way' which they may dedicate to the Local Authority as a proposed Highway. The public may use this road hence it is a public road but a private road may also be a public road and not adopted by the Council, as someone has given an example of. Hence your statement was wrong.

For the purposes of parking enforcement, which was the topic before you took it off at a tangent, the relvant roads are 'Highways'. These may be either in private or public ownership.