Blu-ray beware

S0litaire

Robin_T_Cox wrote: »

The main difficulty with Blu-ray is that you can't make a back-up copy of the DVD, as you can with ordinary DVDs.

A few websites (one with a skull 'n' crossbones file sharing motif, the other being Doom9) beg to differ.

You CAN make backup copies, but like DVD's when they first came out, it's not a simple "One Click" process. But it can be done. It's just the decryption and playing on 'non-licensed' hardware is the bigger issue

oneandonlyboy

Sorry, but you will never be able to get the same quality as blu ray via something like iplayer etc. The size of the download would be about 15gigs and with 99% of ISP's bring in traffic shaping in the next year or so it would take an age to download.

Once blu-ray players and disc start coming down in price and more people understand the meaning of "HD" it will take off. Freeview,Freesat,sky and Virgin can only pump out 1080i and will remain that way due to bandwidth.

Darth_Marty

Leopard wrote: »

And how will this accommodate those who can't get or can't afford broadband?

Generalizing here I would imagine that the market who watches a lot of films and buys dvds/blu ray etc are those with internet access. Over the next few years I wouuld imagine that broadband will become part and parcel of the sky package and almost everyone will have broadband. Those who dont will still be watching bbc1, bbc2, itv and channel 4 like they have always done.

Or something like that.

Darth_Marty

oneandonlyboy wrote: »

Sorry, but you will never be able to get the same quality as blu ray via something like iplayer etc. The size of the download would be about 15gigs and with 99% of ISP's bring in traffic shaping in the next year or so it would take an age to download.

Once blu-ray players and disc start coming down in price and more people understand the meaning of "HD" it will take off. Freeview,Freesat,sky and Virgin can only pump out 1080i and will remain that way due to bandwidth.

I disagree with certain aspects of this. The quality will come in time, not straight away granted and given the huge capacity of blu ray maybe not ever, but on demand can have worse quality and still be the dominant force simply because of convenience. Regarding the tfarric shaping I think you will find that when you sign up for something legitimate like BT Vision for example, the isp will allow you as much as you want. I dont know how it will play out of course but I am very sure that the future of film is not blu ray.

oneandonlyboy

Darth_Marty wrote: »

I disagree with certain aspects of this. The quality will come in time, not straight away granted and given the huge capacity of blu ray maybe not ever, but on demand can have worse quality and still be the dominant force simply because of convenience. Regarding the tfarric shaping I think you will find that when you sign up for something legitimate like BT Vision for example, the isp will allow you as much as you want. I dont know how it will play out of course but I am very sure that the future of film is not blu ray.

I understand your point, Iplayer is a very useful tool and products like this will play a larger role in the future. Saying that, Blu-ray is aimed at giving people the best possible viewing of a film, most people are now buying 32'' plus size HD TV's only to find that the picture quality is lower then their old crt TV's unless they have a HD source.

People will say you can hook up your pc to your tv, yes this is true but there not designed for this use 24/7 i have downloaded films via different means and watched them on my macbookpro etc but i have still gone out to buy a copy on Blu-ray/dvd to enjoy the full home cinema effect in my living room so i can share it with family and friends.

Marty_J

I'm in the States, and there are a lot of Blu Ray disks both in stores and advertised on TV. I've seen quite a few which contain a "digital copy" of the film for putting on your iPod or computer. When DVDs came out, the players were very expensive as where the films themselves. Fast-forward a few years, and both the films and players are very inexpensive. The same thing will happen with Blu Ray. Downloading has several major hurdles such as the amount of bandwidth required and bringing the technology into the living room. Watching the latest blockbuster on a little computer screen isn't exactly fun.

robredz

You can buy a recordable blu ray disk now and the combo writer drive to use it, so the technology also has use for data storage as well as archiving HD content off Sky/Freesat. You can probably *rip* a blu ray disk to hard drive using Any DVD.

Marty_J

robredz wrote: »

You can probably *rip* a blu ray disk to hard drive using Any DVD.

Blu Ray is a much tougher nut to crack than DVD.

Coveredinbees!!!!

I got my own theory on this so it will no doubt be completely wrong. They way I can see things going is to some form of solid state rom format using something like an SD memory card. SD memory cards are getting bigger and can now easily accommodate a whole film and the prices are dropping on them all the time. Then there would be no worry about scratching discs and they would be small enough to be fully portable.


OK I'll get my coat.

Leopard

Leave your coat right where it is, CoveredInBees.

I think you're absolutely right. :T

Darth_Marty wrote: »

Generalizing here I would imagine that the market who watches a lot of films and buys dvds/blu ray etc are those with internet access. Over the next few years I wouuld imagine that broadband will become part and parcel of the sky package and almost everyone will have broadband. Those who dont will still be watching bbc1, bbc2, itv and channel 4 like they have always done.

Or something like that.

Far too much "generalizing" (sic) goes on in these threads; it renders them unreliable.

Yours, however, was a particularly pernicious one. Why would someone who cannot obtain a broadband connection for geographical or technical reasons not want to "(watch) a lot of films and buys dvds/blu ray etc" (sic) ?

If anything, I would have thought that anyone who couldn't obtain a broadband signal would be more likely to want to watch DVDs and Blu-Ray discs, instead. Not least because they could have them delivered, even for rental, by mail if they live somewhere remote.