Windows 7

Jaffa.

Wow! this has gone right off-topic, I'm sure Linux, kernel or not has nothing to do with Windows 7 or Vista :rolleyes:

DatabaseError

MikeWhitehead wrote: »

Sadly tony, I was born the same year Elite was released! Can't comment on this one

Now I feel old
I suppose you never learnt (as I did) to read ticker-tape or punch cards? Oh, how you've missed out (not).
The year elite was released we (where I was training) got a hard drive, the 1st I'd ever seen. The size of a desktop PC case, and, I think, eithe 1 or 10 Meg. We filled it within an hour, saving 0000 - FFFF dumps from the beebs, the sysadmin was not a happy bunny one he's got over his confusion

MikeWhitehead

Conor wrote: »

Like most Linux apologists

Like most Linux apologists? More like a desktop purist and non-MS fanboy like some people I give everything it's fair chance. I use multiple OSs (yes, that includes MS offerings shock horror). If I have problems with any aspects, I'll say so. If you don't like it, don't read it - simple.

What are your indisputable facts? (Take that as a hypothetical question please; I really can't be bothered with you anymore, and I don't want this poor guys thread kept off-topic any longer). As I have already previously posted my advice, I'll no longer be posting to this thread - sorry OP.

Marty_J

An interesting read:

http://apcmag.com/xp_still_killing_vista_in_sales_volume_hp.htm

Conor_3

MikeWhitehead wrote: »

What are your indisputable facts? (Take that as a hypothetical question please; I really can't be bothered with you anymore, and I don't want this poor guys thread kept off-topic any longer). As I have already previously posted my advice, I'll no longer be posting to this thread - sorry OP.

Take your pick. There's plenty to choose from such as the proof your source of desktop market share is biased to the proof that most of your claims and facts are rubbish.

i-Citizen

anewhope wrote: »

OP, if you're at university then there's a very good chance that through an academic subscription that you will be able to get Windows 7 for free at some point of your course.

If you need to buy a laptop for your studies, buy one.

woah, this thread has gone way off topic (didnt ask about linux lol had too many problems with that)

so im thinking now life is too short, stop thinking about everything and just go for it, because after windows 7 gets released, therell be talks of windows olympics lol....going to plunge for the dell studio 15 after christmas - hopefully will be cheaper by then just a bit i hope

so anewhope, say I buy vista now, after a year later when Ill be university, your saying that windows 7 will be provided for free? how does that work, care to elaborate? i like the sound of that, buy vista now and get free upgrade lol

if anyone else would like to keep adding to this topic, then please do so

p.s here I am worrying should I buy vista or windows 7, but what are thee differences between them anyway?

DatabaseError

There will always be something bigger and better just around the corner, by all means wait for that, but I think you're right, after xmas go shopping

MikeWhitehead

i-Citizen wrote: »

so anewhope, say I buy vista now, after a year later when Ill be university, your saying that windows 7 will be provided for free? how does that work, care to elaborate? i like the sound of that, buy vista now and get free upgrade lol

Windows 7 quite possibly will be free, but I'm unsure under what flavour. If they go the Home Premium/Business/Enterprise/Ultimate/etc route, then it will be the Business edition that will be made free. Also, it is only free if your university is part of the Microsoft Academic Alliance, or if the the university has some other system to provide software (which is unlikely due to costs invoked). I recieved Visual Studio, 5 Vista licenses, 4 XP licenses, and other odd bits and pieces through the MAA.

No-one really can say for certain what the similarities/differences will be between Vista and Windows 7 quite yet because it isn't far enough down its development path to see what will be kept and what will be removed. For a rough idea though, google "Windows 7 vs Vista" and you should find some reviews based on the most recent builds.

HTH.

[Deleted User]

To the previous points discussed regarding the NT kernel, it's better practise to improve on the previous iteration to ensure that backwards compatibility is maintained and hardware manufacturers are able to write well performing device drivers within familiar boundaries. Poor drivers gives poor operating system experience.

For example, if you get this error message in Vista "Display driver has stopped working and has succesfully recovered" then you are aware that there has been an issue and you can investigate the root cause through the system logs as usual. On a previous previous iteration of the NT kernal the result would have more than likely Bluescreened and you would be forced to reboot with the loss of whatever you were doing at the time. Device driver failure should not cause a complete system failure as we've become familiar with, the system should remain operational abliet with degraded performance, but certainly not falling down.

The increase of virtualisation for device drivers that have direct access to the kernels subsets that previously have affected system stability is a very good reason why Microsoft continue to adapt the very flexible NT kernel. I'm sure that Microsoft would rellish the opportunity to breakaway from the constraints that Windows as we know it has locked them into, but to completely break away from this format would be commercial suicide as decades of programming methodology would be rendered useless, backwards compatibility would be non existant and nobody would use it because anything developed for it would not be stable for years.

i-Citizen wrote: »

so anewhope, say I buy vista now, after a year later when Ill be university, your saying that windows 7 will be provided for free? how does that work, care to elaborate? i like the sound of that, buy vista now and get free upgrade lol

Most universities will be a part of the MS:AA (Microsoft: Academic Alliance) where they will make available to you at no cost versions of Windows, Office, Visual Studio. It would not be out of the realms of possibility that the launch of Windows 7 will see the inclusion in this.

i-Citizen

anewhope wrote: »

Most universities will be a part of the MSA (Microsoft: Academic Alliance) where they will make available to you at no cost versions of Windows, Office, Visual Studio. It would not be out of the realms of possibility that the launch of Windows 7 will see the inclusion in this.

I have thanked all answers that have been relevant to my question

thanks anewhope and whitehead, im relieved now as to what to do. im going to buy the dell studio 15 or hp dv5-1009 ea after christmas, with 4gb ram, dedicated graphics card and etc, so windows 7 should run well - read that windows 7 runs good even on 1gb ram lol

again back to that uni point sorry - but say my uni is under the microsoft academic alliance and windows 7 has been out for a couple of months with a few initial bugs sorted out, do i just go to my uni tech department and just demand for it - surely they'll want a fee, i mean dishing out os to thousands of students is bound to cost them?