Private Parking Tickets discussion

ckerrd

She should ignore it and all further correspondence from them.

She has received no "fine" just an invoice

trisontana

Just keep ignoring. Be aware that P&C spaces have no basis in law, even less than disabled spaces in private car-parks.

This case is no different to the many similar cases featured on this forum. That "solicitors" letter is just part of their scare tactics. Just hold your nerve and they will soon lose interest in you.

Coupon-mad

euan.pyper wrote: »

My wife received a parking fine from "Town & City Parking Ltd" - I think a private company. This was for parking in a Parent and Child bay. She parked there for about 20 minutes and did so as a result of her car being damaged on a previous occasion in a normal bay, which has less surrounding space. She has ignored the initial ticket however received a solicitor's letter giving 7 days notice. I would be obliged if someone could advise, based on a similar incident.

Many thanks
Euan

Ignore all their letters and they will just go away. Here's a thread with examples of private parking letters (not from TCP but they are all the same scam):

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2214803

Have a look in close up at some of the letters people have posted so far, you will see that the idle threat you've got there is part of a standard letter-chain. It's designed to scare you into paying by mimicking a real parking fine and using scary words like 'litigation' 'debt collectors' 'solicitors' and 'Court'. It is all just hot air - just pretty coloured bold typeface and letter-headings.

When your PPC have given up on you (they will if you stand firm and ignore them) please could you consider coming back on here and posting your own letter-chain example on the linked thread? These letters help to reassure people getting tickets for the first time, so they can see what they will receive and that it will just stop.

We don't have TCP's letter-chain in our collection yet, so we would appreciate it if you could help us show it in due course.

Lots of people on here and on pepipoo.com have had tickets from TCP though, they are well known and the same as all the PPC scammers. If you want to google them a bit more look for links to pepipoo forums so you can see that other people have ignored their PCNs and nothing happened.

It doesn't affect your credit rating. You didn't commit an offence and you owe them nothing.

pinkpinkfizz

Hi,

I posted on here away back in september as a letter had come in from TPS Parking Solutions, addressed to the owner of the vehicle concerned. It was a charge for over staying in a local store car park. The initial charge was £45 increasing to £70 if not paid within 14 days.

The letters are addressed to the owner of the vehicle but it was not him who was driving or even with the vehicle.(As the video evidence would clearly show, if they have any)

The letter was ignored based on the advice offered on this website.

About 3 weeks later next letter, saying final reminder before legal action, but using the "may" & "could" wording so, thanks to this site again, IGNORED

October 2009; Legal action pending letter the charge increased to £110 to be paid within 7 days of the letter. IGNORED

No correspondence at all during November or December.I had hoped that was it all over.

25th Jan - Debt recovery letter stating to pay with immediate effect or the account would be passed to litigation team and legal recovery may commence. States to declare if you were not the driver involved and to disclose the identity of the driver. IGNORED

4th Feb - Notice of Intended Litigation received this morning. Charges as follows:
Current amount outstanding 148.75
Solicitors fees for issueof a claim form 50
Court fees for issue of a claim form £ 50
Solicitors costs for getting judgment(by default) 25.00
Predicited amount outstanding £253.75

The debt recovery company is Debt Recovery Plus LTD.

I am holding firm on not paying but this is starting to get quite harrassing!!

Any one heard of either company before?Martin Lewis advises people to contact the company to make it clear that the owner was not the driver, we've not done that, Should we have? (I know on here you all say don't contact them what so ever) but there is conflicting advice??
I live in Scotland, does all of the advice apply here the same as England?
Also no letters have been sent recorded, so there is nothing to say that any of these letters ever arrived?!

I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that this is going to go away?! please :huh:

ckerrd

Still "intended" litigation?

So they have yet to go to court.

Just another threatening letter. Ignore

I had one, from another company, which actually mentioned the court and a date so I contacted the court. There was no case they had just made stuff up to frighten me.

Very naughty scum these people are.

taxiphil

First of all, well done for ignoring them so far. You've done exactly the right thing. Carry on ignoring.

They're just ramping up the intimidation level because they know perfectly well that intimidation is their only possible way of getting money out of you.

pinkpinkfizz wrote: »

Martin Lewis advises people to contact the company to make it clear that the owner was not the driver, we've not done that, Should we have? (I know on here you all say don't contact them what so ever) but there is conflicting advice??

The consensus among the regular posters on here is never to contact them, and we'd very much like to see Martin revise his advice.

There is nothing to be gained from contacting them. They have no legitimacy in the first place, they are simply scam artists. Contacting them will only make them think you're taking them seriously. You owe them absolutely no explanation of who was or wasn't driving.

winebox

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Doesn't matter who the PPC is, they tend to follow the same well-trodden path of standard letters designed to frighten you.

By way of illustration, here is a pictogram of the Euro Car Parks letterchain:

http://www.violetmount.com/scam.jpg

(many thanks to Alx*27 for posting these links ages ago).

Firstly, thanks all round to everyone on here - thanks for making me ignore Euro Car Parks since last July & esp thanks for the above link cos it looks like I'm at the end as I've received all the letters featured! Got the last one Xmas Eve (cheers for that).

Secondly, a question - if I had a second ticket from them for the same car park, would that strengthen their case? I ask because there's been a change of usage to the car park in question (hence the original ticket, I missed the tiny notice at the top of a lamp-post!) it used to be free for infinite length of time now only free for 3 hours, but you can't pay to stay longer - you have to leave! I may well get caught again as there's nowhere else to park nearby (I don't understand why they haven't just introduced a charge tbh)

ckerrd

As someone who has always advocated ignoring these people and taken my own advice I was surprised to get a letter today about a "debt" I owe from CCS Enforcement Services Limited.

They apparently are disappointed to note that an amount remains outstanding.

I am disappointed too as I thought this had gone away.
Original "parking ticket" was well over a year ago.

Ah well - they will "have no alternative but to take legal action"

Such is life.

I await the next letter.

Ountz

quanto2009 wrote: »

Hi
Received a invoice dec 09 from excel parking for £60 for parking without a valid parking ticket on private land where there a signs for parking with valid ticket only.
1. I have 14 days to pay the ticket.
2.They have the details of the car owner from DVLA.
3.The current keeper was not the driver at the time of the alleged offence.
4.A CCTV camera shows the car entry and exit time a period of 15 mins in total.
5.No ticket was issued to the car only a letter and cctv picture showing entering and exiting the car park.
6.The pay meter on site require you enter the reg when parking.
7. Additional action will follow if the amount is not paid within 14 days

Am I or the person liable to pay this ticket is it enforceable? or
Should I just ignore the ticket?
Thanks
Quanto2009

Pretty much exactly the same thing happened to me. The Registered Keeper of the vehicle has sent the two letters Martin has printed on the main site. They've got back at us with a 3rd letter talking about court proceedings and how the RK should reveal who the driver was or else she is in non compliance of pre action protocols. Anyone know what this is? i also have a hypothetical question. If it did get to court can the judge force the RK to reveal who the driver was?

peter_the_piper

Pre action protocols are another way of saying "Damn they've rumbled us, better go to plan B and try quasi-legal gobbledygook."
Regarding the court, yes a judge could do so but would only do so if you insisted on not revealing who it was and used that as your only arguement. However the chance of it going to court is about as much as Elvis winning the lottery.