Private Parking Tickets discussion

Spartacus_Mills

quanto2009 wrote: »

Hi
Received a invoice dec 09 from excel parking for £60 for parking without a valid parking ticket on private land where there a signs for parking with valid ticket only.
1. I have 14 days to pay the ticket.
2.They have the details of the car owner from DVLA.
3.The current keeper was not the driver at the time of the alleged offence.
4.A CCTV camera shows the car entry and exit time a period of 15 mins in total.
5.No ticket was issued to the car only a letter and cctv picture showing entering and exiting the car park.
6.The pay meter on site require you enter the reg when parking.
7. Additional action will follow if the amount is not paid within 14 days

Am I or the person liable to pay this ticket is it enforceable? or
Should I just ignore the ticket?
Thanks
Quanto2009

Should any contract exist then it exists between the Driver and the PPC. The Registered keeper has no legal obligation to name the Driver. Let them swivel. You have no obligation to pay this.

Ibsys

AAM wrote: »

I have been issued with a parking charge notice, and I know I will probably be repeating what everyone else has been saying so I apologise in advance, but its for £60, £30 if paid within 10 days, for parking in ASDA from Town and City Parking LTD.
I haven't done anything yet, but I want to know if I do ignore it and not enter into any communication with TCP LTD is there any chance, even if its extremely slim, that you can get a criminal conviction for not paying?

I got a ticket by this firm in Asda-Peterborough. I got it cancelled!

No, you can't get a conviction for something which is not a criminal offence (scourcs-Northampton CC) I used the Bill of Rights Act 1689. I did not use the appeal system, I bluntly said is wasn't paying it.

Bill of Rights "Promises of grants, fine and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction is illegal and void". The fine is illegal because no company or authority can issue a fine, authority means, Council, Inland Revenue etc.

The fine was cancelled. Do not fill in appeal forms or recognise them. Even an ajudicator cannot enforce a fine.

Ibsys

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Should any contract exist then it exists between the Driver and the PPC. The Registered keeper has no legal obligation to name the Driver. Let them swivel. You have no obligation to pay this.

Correct- you are not in trial "now" so there is no need to defend yourself. You do not have to admit being the driver, it contravenes the Human Rights Act. You do not have to pay it because they have not used the correct method of persuance and they cannot issue a fine, they are claiming powers forbidden to them. (Bill of Rights)

reese

I've had PCN from Parking Eye and foolishly contacted them prior to reading this forum! As I've made this contact are they more likely to take the matter further?

HO87

reese wrote: »

I've had PCN from Parking Eye and foolishly contacted them prior to reading this forum! As I've made this contact are they more likely to take the matter further?

In a word - yes. Just make sure you ignore anything else that flops through your letterbox.

reese

HO87 wrote: »

In a word - yes. Just make sure you ignore anything else that flops through your letterbox.

Is it worth me getting in touch and saying that I have checked my dates and that I wasn't the driver on that day or just ignore everything from now on?

brian.killett

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Have you canceled yours?

I am in the process of replying to them, stating that "as I have had a satisfactory conclusion I will be cancelling the invoices"

mrdephead

I received an invoice, cunningly disguised as a PCN, from MET Parking Services because my car was parked at a McDonalds for more than 75 mins. The car was there because my daughter was attending a 2 hour birthday party organised by the 'restaurant'. I was not the driver. I was at work.
I took the advice posted on the forum and ignored it along with the next 3 letters. The charge increased and so did the threats (court, bailiffs etc) but eventually they gave up. I was tempted to tell them that the driver was a Mr. Ronald McDonald and give them the address of the 'restaurant' as his address. However, that would be dishonest!
Ignore everything is definitely the best advice. MET have proved it.
It is tempting to start an argument with them as to why I will not be paying the fine (Eg I was not the driver and as such it is impossible for me to have entered into a contract with them, I am not legally obliged to say who the driver was but good luck with your efforts to catch them... ) but it is not worth the time.

Ignore them all.

steve1500

This is a very long thread so previous posters may have mentioned it? For these private car companies to identify you they have to get the DVLA to flick the registration number, as such the Data Protection Act comes into play.

If you do have the misfortune to get one of these parking tickets was a "Fair Processing Notice" in place in other words did the company that slapped you with the "fine" say on their signs that they would contact the DVLA so that you could be identified you.

IF the signs are correct I would them hit them with a subject access request asking for ALL information they hold on you, this must include photgraphs CCTV etc as it is all subject to DPA and they will have to produce everything, so if you have parked in the same car park a few times they should have that information about you as well, the fee is £10 including P&P

If you are not happy with their response, or they fail to provide you with the information, request the Information Commissioners Office to carry out an assessment, another of our rights under DPA.

You may also want to hit the DVLA under Freedom of Informantion Act about what steps do they take to protect our information and again ask the Information Commissioner to carry out an assessment to see if they are breaching the Act, particularly around Section 55 of the Act in that they were careless (polite wording) with the information they held about us

steve1500

I should have added of course, don't give them a penny, plus you get the satisfaction of knowing it will have cost them far more to even start processing the Subject Acces Request