Grrr - blue badge

jackieb

Ames wrote: »

I think in the booklet you get with a blue badge it says the disabled person can't sit in the car and wait while an ab passenger goes and does something. I don't still have my leaflet though.

I'm pretty sure this is right. It makes sense because a non-disabled driver could quite easily park in a normal space and walk to wherever they needed to be if the blue badge holder was waiting in the car.

purplecatlover

i dont know where the blue badge bays are in my local tescos, i ran in today to get something then went and waited in the car for my friend. i had managed to get a spot right across form the doors. (wasnt disabled or mother and baby though). an elderly gentleman, with a stick came and asked me politely was i leaving, so i moved out of the space for him to allow him to park. then i looked for the diasabled bays, none of the rows of parking particularly close to the doors are disabled, i couldnt find them....there was a sign pointing further away from the doors for mother and baby.

seems a bit odd to me that those spaces wouldnt be closer to the doors than the anyone can park spaces.......

Unity

peediedj wrote: »

so my 12 year old disabled son,who has a blue badge has to park the car does he??

Of course not that would be silly . However strictly speaking you couldn't park in a disabled bay, on yellow lines etc. and then walk away and leave your disabled son in the car as it could be said you were using the badge to park for your own convenience, unless you are both disabled and both have a badge.

Pssst wrote: »

Indeed they can but it would then be a civil matter rather than a legal matter. For instance,if a private clamper clamped my motor and i chose to cut his clamp off and leave it nearby,he couldnt really involve the police and would have to pursue a civil claim in the courts. Same with Asda etc. It isnt on the public highway so its a civil dispute.

Incorrect I'm afraid. If you chose to "cut off his clamp" he could indeed involve the police and you would then be guilty of criminal damage . Only if you can safely remove the clamp without damage are you allowed to do so.

The following site: http://forums.pepipoo.com/ has informed those who choose to steal disabled spaces in supermarkets, how to get away with it, but frankly it's still not big and it's not clever . Then again, Karma will probably get them in the end :T.

mgn83uk

I think it needs to be clarified that the blue badge is for the owner of the badge, not the vehicle, and not necessarily the driver. The owner of the badge can use it in any vehicle, including private hire vehicles, taxis or hire cars.

If you leave the disabled person in the car, then you are parking for your own convenience really; afterall, such a person has a blue badge because they have mobility issues, not yourself.

However, it doesn't matter who is driving, merely that the blue badge is being used in support of its owner.

-Mark

Vampgirl

redmerlot wrote: »

Meanwhile l park in disabled bays with him but l must admit no one has ever challanged us.

We are in the same situation with my mother in law - she can stand and walk a little with the help of a stick but not for any length of time so she uses a wheelchair to get around outside the house. She has recently received some equipment to aid her in the home (from social services I think?) and is getting a grant from the local authority for a stairlift. However they say she doesn't qualify for a blue badge

We're currently trying to get her one (again!), but with a minimum of 6 weeks wait for the application to be processed, then having to wait for an appointment to attend a walking assessment, then wait after that for it to be decided its going to take a long time! Unfortunately her GP won't support her application as her condition is temporary - its been temporary for the last 10 years and he has told her it isn't going to get any better - spot the contradiction!!! But she is of the generationt that believes the "doctor knows best" and won't ask for a second opinion :mad: I suspect that we're going to have a fight on our hands to get one.

Meanwhile we'll continue to use the disabled bays in supermarkets and attended carparks without a badge - no-one has challenged us on it yet, but I'm just waiting for the day it happens. I am very happy that such carparks are exempt from PCNs - if they weren't then my mother in law wouldn't be able to do many of the things that we take for granted - like simply being able to go shopping.

Biggles

Ames wrote: »

I think in the booklet you get with a blue badge it says the disabled person can't sit in the car and wait while an ab passenger goes and does something. I don't still have my leaflet though.

No, there's nothing like that mentioned.

There can be advantages in parking so the the disabled person is as near as possible to the destination (eg you may not want to leave them alone longer than necessary, or you may need them to get out and come with you later on without having to move the car and look for a new space, etc etc).

jackieb

Biggles wrote: »

No, there's nothing like that mentioned.

There can be advantages in parking so the the disabled person is as near as possible to the destination (eg you may not want to leave them alone longer than necessary, or you may need them to get out and come with you later on without having to move the car and look for a new space, etc etc).

This is from the directgov website.

If you are a badge holder, it can only be used for your benefit. If a trip is for someone else and you are a passenger and staying in the vehicle, you cannot use the badge simply to let them benefit from free parking.

colin13

Vampgirl wrote: »

We are in the same situation with my mother in law - she can stand and walk a little with the help of a stick but not for any length of time so she uses a wheelchair to get around outside the house. She has recently received some equipment to aid her in the home (from social services I think?) and is getting a grant from the local authority for a stairlift. However they say she doesn't qualify for a blue badge

We're currently trying to get her one (again!), but with a minimum of 6 weeks wait for the application to be processed, then having to wait for an appointment to attend a walking assessment, then wait after that for it to be decided its going to take a long time! Unfortunately her GP won't support her application as her condition is temporary - its been temporary for the last 10 years and he has told her it isn't going to get any better - spot the contradiction!!! But she is of the generationt that believes the "doctor knows best" and won't ask for a second opinion :mad: I suspect that we're going to have a fight on our hands to get one.

Meanwhile we'll continue to use the disabled bays in supermarkets and attended carparks without a badge - no-one has challenged us on it yet, but I'm just waiting for the day it happens. I am very happy that such carparks are exempt from PCNs - if they weren't then my mother in law wouldn't be able to do many of the things that we take for granted - like simply being able to go shopping.[/quote

in north lanarkshire,, if u get the form filled in by GP as well as u this is then consisdereda medical disorder and it is automatically given,, dont think we have 6 week wait here

Biggles

jackieb wrote: »

If you are a badge holder, it can only be used for your benefit. If a trip is for someone else and you are a passenger and staying in the vehicle, you cannot use the badge simply to let them benefit from free parking.

Yes, you can't 'loan' someone else the use of your badge on a journey purely for their own benefit.

The whole point is that a journey must be for the badge-holder's benefit. But, as long as it is, there's no rule against leaving them in the car.


On another subject, I have to say I'm disappointed by the number of people on this thread who are quite happy to park in a disabled space in a supermarket car park even though they don't have a badge.

I bet they're not so confident that they try it on a public road!

rseal

Its so true you do get lots of dirty looks i have a blue badge and because i have a hidden disabilty and im 22 people think its fake its so funny and its even funnier when they come up to you questioning it, i collaspe without any warning lots of times a day so i need 24hr care because i can seriously hurt myself and i crawl on the floor to get to the car sorry for going on !!