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Grrr - blue badge

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Disability Money Matters
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  • asbestos2008asbestos2008 Forumite
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    We get judged everytime we use our BB. My son is 5 and has a blue badge due to his autism, i had one old man waving his stick at me hurling abuse, that i shouldnt park in a disabled spot. I had been having a very bad day with my son and just wanted to get food and go. He carried on yelling at me with my 2 children, my son was getting very distressed at this stranger following us and shouted. In the end I turned to him and told him "my son would have to live with this disability for the rest of his life, and this man had one cause he was old, told him not to worry he wouldnt need it for much longer!!!!!" put the kids back in the car burst into tears and drove home! The only time we dont get rude stares are when his disability pushchair comes out the boot!!!
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  • savemoneysavemoney Forumite
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    I find some elderly people are intolerant to young disabled people, they forget you can get a disability at any age. Many are lucky to have gone through life without any disability.

    If you have a blue badge you entitled to use it as long as it is for that person who needs it and is either driving or nominated driver as long as they are there with you

    You shouldn't have to justify to anyone who ask unless its a traffic warden for example as long as you show it

    I have no issues with anyone being challenged though for not displaying it, the sooner we get rid of those who abuse the system the better, and I am not sympathetic to lazy bums who cant be bothered to walk a few yards, I am glad they get fined
  • CouponWomanCouponWoman Forumite
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    I know of someone who was quite badly injured in an accident and was in a wheelchair. She was taken by a friend to Asda and they parked in a disabled space.

    When they returned to the car less than an hour later they had been ticketed. they got a £40 fine. She paid the fine as she knew she was in the wrong. I had told her to get a blue badge and she said she could not be bothered.

    They saw the warden and spoke to him but he would not back down even though she was in a wheelchair. So, yes, people can get fined for parking in a disabled bay.

    Personally I believe people should have respect for disabled people, I have taken a relative out and she has a blue badge as she is disabled and in a wheelchair.

    If is infuriating not to be able to park yet see people without badges thinking its OK to park in one as they are only getting a few things, so will only be 20 mins.

    Blue badges are easily obtained and free so no one has any excuse for not getting one if they are genuinely disabled.

    My neighbour is 90 and got a blue badge for the rare occasions her family take her out.

    I think all stores should fine people who do not have a badge, no matter what their excuse.


    For all those people who think it is acceptable to block a disabled bay, I hope you are never in the position to really need one.
  • InvasionInvasion Forumite
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    Blue badges are easily obtained and free so no one has any excuse for not getting one if they are genuinely disabled.

    My neighbour is 90 and got a blue badge for the rare occasions her family take her out.

    I have to disagree with you there.... Blue badges are not necessarily easily obtained, the DLA system SUCKS, and in many areas the council will ONLY give you a BB if you have got HRM DLA, (unless you're over 65, then you can have one if you've got a little slower over the years....) this can take numerous appeals etc to get, whilst being very poorly, it's not easy! I was without a blue badge for a year whilst being in a wheelchair, I only got one a couple of months ago after the DWP admitted defeat and gave me what I'm entitled to. Throughout that time we NEVER parked in a disabled bay, and there were places I couldn't even go because of that- couldn't get the wheelchair and me, out safely in normal size spaces. People seem to think that if you need a BB you'll get one, no problem, but it's just not the case, I'd GLADLY give it up to be able to walk more than a few metres before being in pain, and without collapsing.
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    Tally-Ho_2Tally-Ho_2 Forumite
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    edited 1 June 2009 at 7:29AM
    Invasion wrote: »
    I have to disagree with you there.... Blue badges are not necessarily easily obtained, the DLA system SUCKS, and in many areas the council will ONLY give you a BB if you have got HRM DLA, (unless you're over 65, then you can have one if you've got a little slower over the years....) this can take numerous appeals etc to get, whilst being very poorly, it's not easy! I was without a blue badge for a year whilst being in a wheelchair, I only got one a couple of months ago after the DWP admitted defeat and gave me what I'm entitled to. Throughout that time we NEVER parked in a disabled bay, and there were places I couldn't even go because of that- couldn't get the wheelchair and me, out safely in normal size spaces. People seem to think that if you need a BB you'll get one, no problem, but it's just not the case, I'd GLADLY give it up to be able to walk more than a few metres before being in pain, and without collapsing.


    I would like to know which council this is?. If as you say, they only give them to people receiving HRM DLA then they are discriminating against those who would also fall into the 'automatic issue' category (ie those who receive War Pensioners Mobility Supplement -WPMS- or those registered blind).

    Although badges issued under the 'assessed criteria' are a debatable point, the councils DO have to issue them to those who receive WPMS and the registered blind automatically.

    Tally
  • Tally-Ho_2Tally-Ho_2 Forumite
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    I know of someone who was quite badly injured in an accident and was in a wheelchair. She was taken by a friend to Asda and they parked in a disabled space.

    When they returned to the car less than an hour later they had been ticketed. they got a £40 fine. She paid the fine as she knew she was in the wrong. I had told her to get a blue badge and she said she could not be bothered.

    They saw the warden and spoke to him but he would not back down even though she was in a wheelchair. So, yes, people can get fined for parking in a disabled bay.

    Personally I believe people should have respect for disabled people, I have taken a relative out and she has a blue badge as she is disabled and in a wheelchair.

    If is infuriating not to be able to park yet see people without badges thinking its OK to park in one as they are only getting a few things, so will only be 20 mins.

    Blue badges are easily obtained and free so no one has any excuse for not getting one if they are genuinely disabled.

    My neighbour is 90 and got a blue badge for the rare occasions her family take her out.

    I think all stores should fine people who do not have a badge, no matter what their excuse.


    For all those people who think it is acceptable to block a disabled bay, I hope you are never in the position to really need one.

    She could not have been 'fined' by ASDA or their warden. What she would have been issued with is basically an invoice which is not enforceable. Hence although they may huff and puff and send a few snotty letters the person was not obliged to pay anything.

    As the law currently stands, only the Police, Council Civil Enforcement Officers and certain contractors to Network Rail (under the railway bye-laws on railway property) can issue enforcible tickets. They cannot be issued on private property or by parking control companies. As people know about this, disabled spaces at supermarkets/ shopping centres etc get more and more abused because basically they cannot be enforced.

    It needs a change in legislation to allow enforcible tickets to be issued on private car parks such as supermarkets, shopping centres etc - so get onto your MP to get the law changed (the Scottish Parliament are apparently looking to introduce the necessary legislation but it really needs to be national legislation).

    The actual Blue Badge legislation would also need to be amended as currently Blue Badges only apply on a public road. not on car parks or private roads (see the booklet sent out with Blue Badges).

    Until the changes are made in the relevant legislation, we disabled people will only suffer further abuse of disabled parking spaces at supermarkets/shopping centres/hospitals etc.
  • InvasionInvasion Forumite
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    Tally-Ho wrote: »
    I would like to know which council this is?. If as you say, they only give them to people receiving HRM DLA then they are discriminating against those who would also fall into the 'automatic issue' category (ie those who receive War Pensioners Mobility Supplement -WPMS- or those registered blind).

    Although badges issued under the 'assessed criteria' are a debatable point, the councils DO have to issue them to those who receive WPMS and the registered blind automatically.

    Tally

    Shropshire County council, they also "keep applications on file" so that you can't actually appeal... I should've said, those who automatically qualify, I assume, and those over 65, get them, I don't know though. They've been taken to court by a couple of people, and found to be in the wrong, there is one man who appears to be the only one that writes letters, makes decisions, who seems to make his own rules...
  • psyonicpsyonic Forumite
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    I remember I went to Groombridge Place in Kent a couple of years ago for one of their events and when I tried to get to what used to be the disabled parking I found cones across the road, so had to park in a normal space a LONG (about 10 minutes walk for me!) way away from the entrance. When I got there I asked them and they said that next time I should just move the cones!?!? I pointed out that if I was having a bad day and was in my wheelchair (I can just about get around on crutches the rest of the time) I would have had to struggle out of the car, struggle to get the wheelchair out, move the cones, struggle to get the wheelchair back into the car and then struggle to me back in, but then I would have to drive past the cones and do the same to put them back! To make things worse I could see from where I was standing that the disabled spaces were all used anyway by non disabled people from the event. I asked them what I was supposed to do and they said its ok, we have a disabled drop off space right outside where you can drop off the disabled person and then park the car in the normal car park. I pointed out that I was the disabled person and also the driver and they just looked at me as if their brains could not work it out! lol I tried emailing them when I got home and I got a reply mentioning the drop off point again, totally ignoring the things I had already said, so I replied explaining they had missed the point, what a suprise, they never replied! 8o(
  • 70627062 Forumite
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    My OH originally got a blue badge issued as he was going through chemotherapy. He now has it for various ther health issues. Our local council apparently issue them to all cancer patients.

    Some of the earlier posts on this thread have given me a right laugh tonight. A few years ago whilst I was literally 9 months pregnant I went to Tesco. It must have been about 9pm. At the time due to my large bump i struggled to get in and out the car. So seeing that the car park was almost empty I parked in a parent & child (technically I was carrying child). This was so i could open the door as wide as possible. The abuse that I got from an elderly man almost had me in tears.
  • 7062 wrote: »
    My OH originally got a blue badge issued as he was going through chemotherapy. He now has it for various ther health issues. Our local council apparently issue them to all cancer patients.

    Some of the earlier posts on this thread have given me a right laugh tonight. A few years ago whilst I was literally 9 months pregnant I went to Tesco. It must have been about 9pm. At the time due to my large bump i struggled to get in and out the car. So seeing that the car park was almost empty I parked in a parent & child (technically I was carrying child). This was so i could open the door as wide as possible. The abuse that I got from an elderly man almost had me in tears.

    That's dreadfull, I have used a parent and child space when heavily pregnant too but never had any problems with people complaining.

    These people unfortunatly will always be about.

    I was lucky that at least getting my badge was very easy.
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