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HPC if there's a BNP member in your street?

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  • drc
    drc Posts: 2,057 Forumite
    Which is exactly what the BNP are. I think it was a stupid thing to do, but the BNP have been initmidating people with such tactics for years.

    Two wrongs don't make a right and all that :rolleyes:
  • silvercar
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    drc wrote: »
    Two wrongs don't make a right and all that :rolleyes:

    True. But I won't waste my energy fighting for the rights of people who don't respect the rights of others.
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  • DemiDee
    DemiDee Posts: 529 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    True. But I won't waste my energy fighting for the rights of people who don't respect the rights of others.

    I guess that leaves you well and truly unsupportive of our present government then silvercar! :wink:
  • Generali
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    The BNP represent some offensive people with very nasty views. However it is their right to hold such views and they shouldn't be denied work etc as a result.
  • luvpump
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    I like reading some of the articles on the BBC website, this was an interesting analysis I thought ...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7719633.stm
    having read most of the posts in this never ending thread ,what has suprised me the most is the very nasty undertone, not only from the pro BNP Mob but the opposing point of view, it really has... well educated people engaging in a subtle but quite obviously deeply unpleasant..nasty tone, I wonder who are the worse, the BNP or thoes that seem to oppose them..NDG in particular has surprised me ...
  • StevieJ
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    luvpump wrote: »
    I like reading some of the articles on the BBC website, this was an interesting analysis I thought ...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7719633.stm
    having read most of the posts in this never ending thread ,what has suprised me the most is the very nasty undertone, not only from the pro BNP Mob but the opposing point of view, it really has... well educated people engaging in a subtle but quite obviously deeply unpleasant..nasty tone, I wonder who are the worse, the BNP or thoes that seem to oppose them..NDG in particular has surprised me ...

    None more so than this one

    "The same day I saw my first horror camp, I visited every nook and cranny. I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda."

    - General Dwight D. Eisenhower
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  • meester
    meester Posts: 1,879 Forumite
    Which is exactly what the BNP are. I think it was a stupid thing to do, but the BNP have been initmidating people with such tactics for years.

    There is a group known as Red Watch, which overlaps with BNP members closely, that does this, but that's not the same as saying that Mr. X the random BNP member done this, nor is it actually anything to do with the BNP as a party - the people who 'out' anti-BNP campaigners tend to be BNP activists as well for obvious reasons.
  • luvpump wrote: »
    but the opposing point of view, it really has... well educated people engaging in a subtle but quite obviously deeply unpleasant..nasty tone, I wonder who are the worse, the BNP or thoes that seem to oppose them..NDG in particular has surprised me ...

    In what way have I surprised you? I don't think people in general should be sacked for holding political views. I haven't read the list, and don't intend to. I think it is both breach of data protection and a breach of privacy. I think harrassing or intimidating members of the BNP and / or people on that list is wrong.

    I do think any policemen who are members of the BNP are more than a bit thick, as it is forbidden in their job. Rightly so, I'd also say.

    I also think the BNP are scum. Don't forget, this is a group of people, members of whom have described by darling son as a "mongrel". Some of them deny the holocaust that saw every member of OH's grandfather's family killed except for the man himself (including his first wife and children) and most of OH's grandmother's family. She herself was liberated from Dachau. Most of her siblings, both her parents, and all but one of her neices and nephews died, as did her grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.

    The BNP isn't illegal. I don't think it should be, either. But as they have a right to their views, I have a right to think of them as fascist scum of the earth.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • DemiDee
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    silvercar wrote: »
    So why are they concerned that the list has been published. They are a political party, so why are they embarrassed? Shouldn't they be proudly spreading their message?

    It's one thing to proudly spread a message, and quite another to have all your personal details posted on line (including ages and names of your children) for all to see. Are you a member of any group Silvercar? Do you feel strongly about any cause or anything in particular? If so, please post here, together with name, address, hobbies, profession and all details of minors.
  • Guy_Montag
    Guy_Montag Posts: 2,291 Forumite
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    meester wrote: »
    There is a group known as Red Watch, which overlaps with BNP members closely, that does this, but that's not the same as saying that Mr. X the random BNP member done this, nor is it actually anything to do with the BNP as a party - the people who 'out' anti-BNP campaigners tend to be BNP activists as well for obvious reasons.
    Funny then that the while some members of the BNP (as RedWatch) "out" so-called leftwingers, other (now ex-)members of the BNP "out" current members of the BNP.

    Goes to show what they'd be like if they ever saw any power. Let this be a warning to us all.
    "Mrs. Pench, you've won the car contest, would you like a triumph spitfire or 3000 in cash?" He smiled.
    Mrs. Pench took the money. "What will you do with it all? Not that it's any of my business," he giggled.
    "I think I'll become an alcoholic," said Betty.
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