Scottish prices falling now

ruggedtoast

Is it true that if you go to Scotland people are horrible to you if your english?

I went to Wales for work and it was alright and generally friendly (very beautiful too). Though some people became more helpful when they found out my name (I have a celtic first and last name though am about as english as they come).

I think I would factor this issue in to the desirability of Scottish property.

dopester

Without being drawn in to anything heavily Aberdeenish, you have a wealthy benefactor looking to share some of his fortune back to Aberdeen - which is nice of him, and hopefully we will see more examples of such generosity amongst the super-rich, as it could help them as well, rather than having a near total economic meltdown.

Sir Ian Wood, who has seen his family's fishing business grow into a major player in the North Sea oil industry, has pledged £50 million of his £890 million personal fortune towards restoring the heart of the city centre.

He wants to oversee construction work of a new square above the valley housing the Union Terrace Gardens, the Denburn dual carriageway and the Aberdeen to Inverness railway line.

The square would be somewhere between a grand Italian piazza and a scale-down version of New York's Central Park, according to The Scotsman.

Commenting on his proposals, Sir Ian said he wanted to give Aberdeen a "vibrant new heart" to reflect its status as a leading northern European city.

http://news.careerstructure.com/article/view/scotland/18874035/construction-jobs-could-be-created-in-aberdeen/

mitchaa

Cannon_Fodder wrote: »

You haven't answered why East Dunbartonshire should have a 10%+ YoY, when Aberdeen is -4%...is there Oil just north of Glasgow?

Or what effect leaving out Million pound properties has on the stats.

Or why Spring 08 RoS figures show +7% YoY, and has dwindled to 0.1% in six months.

We know Scotland started later. Fair enough.

In another 6 months the previous +ves will be out of the stats, replaced with -ves, and then you'll be in the same boat as England & Wales, with double-digit drops across the board.

Only a year behind, so longer still to fall - especially when the Scottish banks redundancies start to filter through.

Very true, no explanation other than volume of house sales perhaps?

Scotland overall is more affordable, you are correct they will fall double digits soon but i still hold on to the belief that overall they will be lower across the board in comparison to the major English cities and in particular the crazy N.Ireland market.

mitchaa

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Is it true that if you go to Scotland people are horrible to you if your english?

I went to Wales for work and it was alright and generally friendly (very beautiful too). Though some people became more helpful when they found out my name (I have a celtic first and last name though am about as english as they come).

I think I would factor this issue in to the desirability of Scottish property.

Total myth, the majority of Scottish people are very friendly and welcoming. My partner is from London and has had not one ounce of bother after moving up here last year.

Likewise i was living in England for over 7 years and not once did i experience any hatred from the English born and bred.

There is friendly banter when it comes to sporting events, that is about it.

Due to the last 10yrs or so of immigration/EU workers the countries attitudes have changed massively to 'foreigners' in their countries.

So, not a problem at all in my opinion, lots of English people in my company, not once have i heard them complain about any rudeness or hostility from the 'locals'

Cannon_Fodder

Would just like to support Mitchaa in his comments about the Scottish people. Banter is to be expected between the "old enemies".

The country is lovely. If it was 300+ miles further south, I'd move there and take advantage of that affordability.

Just too cold for a southern wuss all year round.

IveSeenTheLight

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

They lagged behind, but have not proved immune.

In Aberdeen, Edinburgh and Glasgow, there have been BIG falls in the last quarter:

Edinburgh +1.9% -7.3% Aberdeen -0.3% -9.1% Dundee -0.2% -11.9%

Nobody said Scotland was immune.
Some have said including myself, that due to affordability factor, Scotland would see less falls than seen on the UK average.

The figures you've quoted from Lloyds TSB have to be questioned.
I've just run a spreadsheet for the last three years using the RoSEA published figures.

Your title is true, Scotland prices are fallying now, as are Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire.
YoY Scotland has dallen for the last two months.
-1.29% in August and -2.99% in September.
Aberdeen has now seen YoY drops for the last 4 months

As for your Lloyds figures, they have reported -9.1% in the last quarter for Aberdeen.
RoSEA figures show a -3.22% 3 month drop in September

Maybe we are only just over the peak of the hill, only time will tell.

I still maintain that I believe Scotland will be less affected than the rest of the UK.
Maybe I should look at the LR results and compare

StevieJ

mitchaa wrote: »

Total myth, the majority of Scottish people are very friendly and welcoming. My partner is from London and has had not one ounce of bother after moving up here last year.

Likewise i was living in England for over 7 years and not once did i experience any hatred from the English born and bred.

There is friendly banter when it comes to sporting events, that is about it.

Due to the last 10yrs or so of immigration/EU workers the countries attitudes have changed massively to 'foreigners' in their countries.

So, not a problem at all in my opinion, lots of English people in my company, not once have i heard them complain about any rudeness or hostility from the 'locals'

Always found the scots to be very generous, helpful and friendly, now those from North Wales I don't think they even like themselves. Not quite fair, I do actually know some lovely people from that area.

JTB_2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Is it true that if you go to Scotland people are horrible to you if your english?

I went to Wales for work and it was alright and generally friendly (very beautiful too). Though some people became more helpful when they found out my name (I have a celtic first and last name though am about as english as they come).

I think I would factor this issue in to the desirability of Scottish property.

Well, put it this way: I lived in Aberdeen for nearly 18 years before I was rescued by my husband, and I am very glad to be back in England. Some were nice, some were not. Here's a couple of bad experiences: I worked in a shop and a man and (nice) woman came in. The woman commented on how nice I had served her; he muttered, "aye, but she's an English Guffie" ('guffie' means 'bad smell', to put it nicely). Sometimes my husband-to-be would not get served in a bar, he had to ask one of our Scottish friends to order instead (served immediately). I asked people why they were like this and they always gave the same answer: in sport, whenever a Scottish person competes, they are British; when an English person competes, they are English!! No, makes no sense to me either......

mitchaa

JTB wrote: »

Well, put it this way: I lived in Aberdeen for nearly 18 years before I was rescued by my husband, and I am very glad to be back in England. Some were nice, some were not. Here's a couple of bad experiences: I worked in a shop and a man and (nice) woman came in. The woman commented on how nice I had served her; he muttered, "aye, but she's an English Guffie" ('guffie' means 'bad smell', to put it nicely). Sometimes my husband-to-be would not get served in a bar, he had to ask one of our Scottish friends to order instead (served immediately). I asked people why they were like this and they always gave the same answer: in sport, whenever a Scottish person competes, they are British; when an English person competes, they are English!! No, makes no sense to me either......

I take it this was back in the early 50's:rolleyes: Times have moved on from all that nonsense.

Aberdeen is flooded with English people due to the oil industry, your bar example is very far fetched and if im honest unbelievable.

It's people like you and attitudes like yours that may in fact cost hostility.

Not a good trolling attempt.

baileysbattlebus

mitchaa wrote: »

I take it this was back in the early 50's:rolleyes: Times have moved on from all that nonsense.

Aberdeen is flooded with English people due to the oil industry, your bar example is very far fetched and if im honest unbelievable.

It's people like you and attitudes like yours that may in fact cost hostility.

Not a good trolling attempt.

We lived in Scotland (West Lothian) for 7 years in the 80's and OH once or twice had some comments like "why are you here taking Scottish jobs" - his reply was "do you know anyone who can do my job?" Unemployment was really high then too, which may have had something to do with it.

But we really liked living there and became accepted very quickly and made some very good friends, we were both sorry to leave.
I found usually that Scottish people were generous to a fault and would try and give you their last if you needed it.

Infact we have been discussing retirement and we both want to move to the north east (I'm from there), but the borders region is another option for both of us or maybe south east Scotland.

Mr Salmond puts us off a bit though, we were a bit concerned that things might have changed and that we may not be made as welcome as we once were.