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aceades

tinkerbell84 wrote: »

have you heard of google? it's quite useful. look what i found - advice direct from the government about what to do when you buy a car

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/DG_4022311

i'll quote some of it for you


"What you and the buyer need to do

You should notify DVLA using the appropriate section of the registration document or certificate. The section you use will depend on the type of document you hold. You should also keep a separate note of the buyer's name and address details.

If you have a two part registration document, complete the lower part headed 'notification of sale or transfer', detach it and post it at once to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1AR. This will not result in the issue of a new registration certificate, but if you do not do this, you may receive enquiries about the car's subsequent use.

Give the buyer the top part of the registration document and, if the vehicle is being sold privately, remind the buyer that DVLA must be informed at once that they have got the vehicle.
"

Grow up will you, i came on here for advice not for annoying nit pickers to make annoying comments and pathetic digs about my post and my issues but not help

coming to this forum was a last resort

I think you will find that text is in relation to SELLING a car, I have bought this one and the ower did not inform DVLA, so i have no V5.


again - you are a fool if you sell a car and let the owner walk away with YOUR V5 , even if DVLA didn't stipulate this its just common sense.

tinkerbell84

aceades wrote: »

Grow up will you, i came on here for advice not for annoying nit pickers to make annoying comments and pathetic digs about my post and my issues but not help

coming to this forum was a last resort

I think you will find that text is in relation to SELLING a car, I have bought this one and the ower did not inform DVLA, so i have no V5.


again - you are a fool if you sell a car and let the owner walk away with YOUR V5 , even if DVLA didn't stipulate this its just common sense.

I'd suggest you READ IT AGAIN.

It's titled WHAT YOU AND THE BUYER NEED TO DO.

It clearly states that the seller informing the DVLA WILL NOT RESULT IN A NEW LOGBOOK BEING PRODUCED.

THE BUYER NEEDS TO FILL IN THE LOGBOOK AND SEND IT OFF TO GET A NEW UPDATED LOGBOOK. HOW CAN THEY DO THAT IF YOU DON'T GIVE THEM THE LOGBOOK?????



!!!!!! - I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU!!!!! :rolleyes:

If the seller doesn't inform the DVLA, but the buyer does, the seller will get a letter from the DVLA asking if they've sold or transferred the car to someone else, so had you do what you should have done, you'd have a new logbook.

aceades

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Originally Posted by aceades
I purchased this car from a private owner, not sure if that makes a difference to your experiance ?

Not a jot - same document, same process. Seller fills out their bit and new owner fills out theirs. And you should give the V5 over.

Just trying to work out why your idea is messaed up, again I AM NOT SELLING THE CAR I BOUGHT IT !!!

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Originally Posted by aceades
I know for a fact that when i sell a car, I , send of the V5, there is no chance i would let a random person come and buy a car off me and let them walk away with all paper work in my name and no guarentee it will be updated,

That's not what the government wants you to do though.

I bet you would jump off qa cliff if the goverment told you too, maybe they should bring out a new guidline for certain naive people

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Originally Posted by aceades
What if someone purchased a car from you, took your V5 so you couldn't update the ownership then used it to ram raid a bank or run someone over, you would have the police at you door and you would be responsible for not sending off the V5. I dont think there is any arguing with that.

if i were to buy from you and commit some kind of crime an hour later, the police would check the database and still find the car registered to you whether you hold the V5 or not.

yes but they could also see that the buyer hold the V5 with the new owener time and dated signiture on it , stating you had purchased it, something i would not have if i had foolishly given it to the buyer

BOTH BUYER AND SELLER HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER LAW TO INFORM THE DVLA OF CHANGE OF KEEPER.

I dont think that is the case i have never had to inform the DVLA when buying a car and i have never had a problem, if it is what they advise it is obviously not very important and doesnt hold any kind of penalty as i have never done it and never even ha dit mentione to me

As you're focussing on vehicles you've sold, we must assume that having done everything required of you, the buyers did what was required of them.

NO , the buyer didnt send off the V5 ! have you even ready the post, he kept it and said he would post it off as usual, are you telling me you have sold many cars but not got any confirmations that they no longer hold you on record for the reg of th car ? thats what you get when you send off a V5, thats why you do it ? god knows howmany cars are out tehre in your name !

YOU DIDN'T DO THAT AS THE BUYER OF THIS CAR.

I DONT NEED TO ITS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBLITY , use your brain !

please can we get back to the topic of advice , not getting on your high horse about irrelevent bs , runing my post and them falling on your head as your point makes you look silly.


Infact i dont think i will bother you have just wasted my time and tarnished my opinion of this otherwise helpful forum.

If any one has any comments on how i get an MOT , TAX or a V5 for my car in my situation please comments else dont bother as i dont want to wasteany more time, believe it or not i find arguing on a forum very annoying !

jammin_2

aceades,

tinkerbell84 is too modest to say, but due to her professional activities, she's very qualified to advise on DVLA related issues. Know what I mean?

tinkerbell84

Okay - this is my last reply because you are beyond help.

aceades wrote: »

Just trying to work out why your idea is messaed up, again I AM NOT SELLING THE CAR I BOUGHT IT !!!

I know - i can read.

Point is, whenever a car is sold (to you or by you) you have responsibilities to inform the DVLA.

aceades wrote: »

I bet you would jump off qa cliff if the goverment told you too, maybe they should bring out a new guidline for certain naive people

((SIGH))

aceades wrote: »

yes but they could also see that the buyer hold the V5 with the new owener time and dated signiture on it , stating you had purchased it, something i would not have if i had foolishly given it to the buyer




I dont think that is the case i have never had to inform the DVLA when buying a car and i have never had a problem, if it is what they advise it is obviously not very important and doesnt hold any kind of penalty as i have never done it and never even ha dit mentione to me

They don't come looking for you, it is YOUR responsibility to tell them!!

aceades wrote: »

NO , the buyer didnt send off the V5 ! have you even ready the post, he kept it and said he would post it off as usual, are you telling me you have sold many cars but not got any confirmations that they no longer hold you on record for the reg of th car ? thats what you get when you send off a V5, thats why you do it ? god knows howmany cars are out tehre in your name !

Are you confusing the buyer and seller cos this contradicts your statement that you BOUGHT the stupid car and the seller didn't do what they should have

I don't routinely sell cars, hence there are several in my name, but i own them all

aceades wrote: »

I DONT NEED TO ITS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBLITY , use your brain !

I've proven to you that it is NOT the seller's responsibility. How many times can i say THAT BOTH BUYER AND SELLER HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO INFORM THE DVLA???

goldspanners

tinkerbell84 wrote: »

THAT BOTH BUYER AND SELLER HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO INFORM THE DVLA???

ive been watching this thread,but im still not too sure who is responsible for informing the dvla,can anyone help?

aceades

Originally Posted by aceades
Grow up will you, i came on here for advice not for annoying nit pickers to make annoying comments and pathetic digs about my post and my issues but not help

coming to this forum was a last resort

I think you will find that text is in relation to SELLING a car, I have bought this one and the ower did not inform DVLA, so i have no V5.


again - you are a fool if you sell a car and let the owner walk away with YOUR V5 , even if DVLA didn't stipulate this its just common sense.

I'd suggest you READ IT AGAIN.

It's titled WHAT YOU AND THE BUYER NEED TO DO.

YES YOU, being the person in question and the buyer, meaning the seller and the buyer, i was the buyer this document is directed at the seller !! - you cant even quote yor own post ,

It clearly states that the seller informing the DVLA WILL NOT RESULT IN A NEW LOGBOOK BEING PRODUCED.

If it does then that is bs as i have never had to ever contact DVLA on purchasing car ever and i have always had one come through, so that is bs, out of date or just not adhered to.

BUYER NEEDS TO FILL IN THE LOGBOOK AND SEND IT OFF TO GET A NEW UPDATED LOGBOOK. HOW CAN THEY DO THAT IF YOU DON'T GIVE THEM THE LOGBOOK?????

sorry thats just not correct, you are an absolute idiot if you have ever handed a V5 to anyone you have sold the car too instead of sending it off yourself , end of - and if you continue to do this after vbeing alerted to the stupidity of it than i wont be suprised or displeased if someone takes advantage.

the buyer can fill it in but, if you let them take it and not send it off you are asking for trouble, who has more to lose in that siuation the buyer who may not get a log book or the vehicle registered in their or the seller whos name could be left on a V5 on purpose while the car is used for criminal activity.

In fact i have an example, my cousin recently sold a car to garage and gave the guy the V5 he said dhe would send it off, well he didn't and a few months later my cousin is having letter from a claims company who are taking him to court as owner of the car becuase it was used in a hit and run months after he sold it, he had the reciept for the sale but blame is placed by the V5 which is still in his name and the police say he has to go to court , the only thing linking him is the V5 becuase he (THE SELLER) didn't send it off - even the police siad he was stupid for letting the guy take the V5 instead of sending it off. thats proof of how things pan out, so thank god you have been so lucky else it may have been you on here posting about being talken to court becaes you gave you V5 to a buyer !

!!!!!! - I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU!!!!! :rolleyes:

SO why not comment on the issue of getting new documents , you would rather make an issue out of irrelevent paperwork issues that have no effect on the situation now, how is that helping ?

If the seller doesn't inform the DVLA, but the buyer does, the seller will get a letter from the DVLA asking if they've sold or transferred the car to someone else, so had you do what you should have done, you'd have a new logbook.

Never had to do it ever before , and i have always had a new log book, never had a letter like that either but probably as i have promptly posted V5's of cars i have sold asap as to get my name off the registration doc for a car being driven around by some one i dont know or trust really.

but basically what you are saying there is, if the seller has failed to send off the V5, the buyer can send of the V5C to get the new V5 sent out. This is the first time i have had to do this, i have sent the V5C to DVLA with a V62 Informing them of the change and am awaiting my new docs, the only problem is they havnt arrived even though they were sent 6 days ago.

So as they seller didn't do it, i had to and i have done it now, its just the fact all the docs are lost on the way back from DVLA and how to get replacements i need help with, nothing else

aceades

I dont think its cut and dry about the responsiblility but thats not the advice i asked for, i want to know waht to do about getting new docs,

If i wanted advice on how to buy a car tink would have a thank you but its stuff that i cant go back and change irespectivly of if i agree or not , i need advice i can use now to help me in my situation

Thanks

aceades

Okay - this is my last reply because you are beyond help.

well i havnt had any yet so how would you know

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Originally Posted by aceades



Just trying to work out why your idea is messaed up, again I AM NOT SELLING THE CAR I BOUGHT IT !!!

I know - i can read.

Point is, whenever a car is sold (to you or by you) you have responsibilities to inform the DVLA.

Well use your ability to do so then , havnt you grasped yet that this is both irrelevent and just not true as you only need to (and it is very imprtant that you do) let the DVLA know if you have sold it, you need to informthem as a buyer only if you havnt got the V5 through, tahts what the V5C is for - why would you rip a document in two and keep both bits ????

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Originally Posted by aceades
I bet you would jump off qa cliff if the goverment told you too, maybe they should bring out a new guidline for certain naive people

((SIGH))

seemed about your level with teh comments you were making, i was just pointing out the fact taht while giving a V5 away to a new owener and not sending it off to DVLA is a very stupid thing to do some one like you woudl; do it if you coudl find a policy that stipulated its requirement. maybei shoudl have dropped your level or maybe i should dropped to your level of intellegence too

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Originally Posted by aceades
yes but they could also see that the buyer hold the V5 with the new owener time and dated signiture on it , stating you had purchased it, something i would not have if i had foolishly given it to the buyer




I dont think that is the case i have never had to inform the DVLA when buying a car and i have never had a problem, if it is what they advise it is obviously not very important and doesnt hold any kind of penalty as i have never done it and never even ha dit mentione to me

They don't come looking for you, it is YOUR responsibility to tell them!!

obviously not very important if the seller has done his duty , only needed if you dont get a V5 , you send tehn the V5C and say - i purchased a car but the V5 hasnt copme through, they say can you send teh V5C and a V62 - there you go that is when a buyer needs to inform DVLA

doesnt matter if you have the V5, why would it ?

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Originally Posted by aceades
NO , the buyer didnt send off the V5 ! have you even ready the post, he kept it and said he would post it off as usual, are you telling me you have sold many cars but not got any confirmations that they no longer hold you on record for the reg of th car ? thats what you get when you send off a V5, thats why you do it ? god knows howmany cars are out tehre in your name !

Are you confusing the buyer and seller cos this contradicts your statement that you BOUGHT the stupid car and the seller didn't do what they should have

you have confused it, you have this preconceived idea that the buyer must send off the V5 and have applied to to my comments where i clearly believe the seller should send it off,

Yes I bought the car, the seller didn't send off the V5 as one normally would

- what is your point ? oh and at what point does my car get stupid - idiot, why get annoyed with me cus i disprove what you are saying ?

I don't routinely sell cars, hence there are several in my name, but i own them all

.......and probably a few more than you know about haha

I forgot that this was factor in my query, i needed to know all about you, if you have sold many cars and given away many V5 forms, i wonder how manay of those are still in your name ? Why dont you phone DVLA and ask you might be suprised, how do you know all your buyers have been reading from the same DVLA book you have , your the only one i have met so far .....





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Originally Posted by aceades
I DONT NEED TO ITS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBLITY , use your brain !

I've proven to you that it is NOT the seller's responsibility. How many times can i say THAT BOTH BUYER AND SELLER HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO INFORM THE DVLA???

tinkerbell84

Not sure how you've managed to screw up all the quoting - what a mess (gave me a laugh anyway)

Just to clarify one thing though (the rest isn't worth it) - I own several cars. I've traded one in and had one written off (not by me). All the others I still own. I DON'T SELL CARS! So I don't need to contact the DVLA as there is no risk of there being any other cars out there registered in my name.

You clearly do need to contact DVLA though to get your car problems sorted out. If you use the link I gave you, you'll find the section about what to do if you need to replace a lost logbook