What counts as disability?

Brassedoff

Deleted_User wrote: »

Do something that puts you in pain just before the assessor asks you to walk a few yards. Many years ago I applied but was asked to walk only a few yards acros a room. The distance was much less than getting from the car park !
I was a bit macho so tried hard and not grimace when it hurt.
BIG MISTAKE. They failed me.
A few years later I tried again but did not put on a brave front. I passed.

Oh, you mean tell her to commit fraud, that's right. You deserve to lose all your benefit if you have to do something just to put yourself in pain.

Despicable!!!!!:mad:

abudabi

Well in actual fact as posted on many disability websites parking spaces at the front of shopping centres are less preffered by W/C users and they more than likely have MORE mobility once in the chair than a person with heart problems or weal limbs etc using walking devices ie- sticks crutches etc
motability isn't only the exclusive rights for wheelchair users and even the blue sign with a wheelchair is outdated imo

abudabi

And BBs most definitely should not be only for those in a wheelchair????? as outlined previously most w/chair users once ensconced in the chair can wheel for miles and would easily outpace most able bodied persons the only reason should be the wider bays for easy access to the wheelchair

LadyMorticia

Brassedoff wrote: »

Because it should be restricted to those who CANNOT walk, such as wheelchair users (I mean real ones that are issued through Wheelchair services, not purchased from EBay), I am fed up of having no life because I cannot mobilise yet all the parking spaces are filled by people with illnesses that still allow the left foot to walk infront of the right.

Shopping, paying, banking, saving, browsing, online, does not allow you to see your area! I recently managed to go down town and was shocked that several shops had gone, some new ones were there, but they had built two large shops!

My OT told me to purchase a wheelchair through Ebay or a mobility website because the wheelchair services criteria here is very strict - to be eligible your need for a wheelchair must be for 4 hours a day for at least 4 days a week. Now, I have severe M.E, I'm housebound alot and hardly go out but on my better days, I just about manage to hobble around my small flat with my stick.

I don't think it's fair to say that BBs should only be for those who cannot walk. I have the ability to walk. I can put one foot in front of the other for a few metres but I need a wheelchair when out due to the exhaustion and pain that comes with walking.

Brassedoff

abudabi wrote: »

Well in actual fact as posted on many disability websites parking spaces at the front of shopping centres are less preffered by W/C users and they more than likely have MORE mobility once in the chair than a person with heart problems or weal limbs etc using walking devices ie- sticks crutches etc
motability isn't only the exclusive rights for wheelchair users and even the blue sign with a wheelchair is outdated imo

And BBs most definitely should not be only for those in a wheelchair????? as outlined previously most w/chair users once ensconced in the chair can wheel for miles and would easily outpace most able bodied persons the only reason should be the wider bays for easy access to the wheelchair

You are having a laugh right? Are you just looking to press my buttons?

Wheelchair users have MORE mobility? I shall remember that trying to get up kerbs. Going through narrow doorways that trap your hands, getting stuck in shops isles that are too narrow, getting caught up in clothing rails. Not being able to reach even a regular height coat hanger in a shop? Being able to carry a bag(s), crossing roads on busy high streets? Not being able to go up some of the slopes in the hardscaped town centres. What about being able to use shops that don't have a lift? They are always great. You play a game of guess the contents. Finding the toilets are used as a store cupboard, or worse still having found one that was cleaned when the blue three wheelers were out.

As for going miles, only Olympians from my experience. I have wheeled around Tesco Extra, got to the car and fell asleep for a few hours. I had hit a brick wall.

Like a cross section of life, some can, more cannot, some have help, some do not. Some can self mobilise, many cannot.

None can use a regular toilet!

Different strokes and all that.

abudabi

Brassedoff wrote: »

You are having a laugh right? Are you just looking to press my buttons?

Wheelchair users have MORE mobility? I shall remember that trying to get up kerbs. Going through narrow doorways that trap your hands, getting stuck in shops isles that are too narrow, getting caught up in clothing rails. Not being able to reach even a regular height coat hanger in a shop? Being able to carry a bag(s), crossing roads on busy high streets? Not being able to go up some of the slopes in the hardscaped town centres. What about being able to use shops that don't have a lift? They are always great. You play a game of guess the contents. Finding the toilets are used as a store cupboard, or worse still having found one that was cleaned when the blue three wheelers were out.

As for going miles, only Olympians from my experience. I have wheeled around Tesco Extra, got to the car and fell asleep for a few hours. I had hit a brick wall.

Like a cross section of life, some can, more cannot, some have help, some do not. Some can self mobilise, many cannot.

None can use a regular toilet!

Different strokes and all that.

No i am quite serious i was particularly referring to shopping centre car parks and the like which generally have flat surfaces and w/c users have a distinct advantage over bad walkers
And as for crossing busy streets etc this equally applies to a person with a walking aid
Also with regards to toilets then ppl who use catheters, gloves ky gel etc etc should have the privacy of a disabled toilet and not have to fill it up and use it in an ordinary public toilet in plain view of the others i concede it is difficult for w/c users with bad upper body strength
but i have spoken to others w/c users who say that where the bays are at the front near the shop they are MORE open to abuse particularly from lazy ppl who want to dash in and ot of the shops and would prefer them at the back of the car park but still with the wide bays which are more important for ease of access than the distance to travel across the car park to the supermarket and at least they would be empty!!

we can agree to disagree about spaces only being the reserve of w/c users no problem

treborc

very interesting views on disability, I've a slight disability nothing to moan about I'm paraplegic, who is incontinent of both bowel and bladder. Have chronic pain after two bouts of MRSA.

interesting views on being in a wheelchair mine is useless at climbing hills or curbs or going over rough ground.

abudabi

treborc wrote: »

very interesting views on disability, I've a slight disability nothing to moan about I'm paraplegic, who is incontinent of both bowel and bladder. Have chronic pain after two bouts of MRSA.

interesting views on being in a wheelchair mine is useless at climbing hills or curbs or going over rough ground.

Slight disability? well i know many who would not agree but i for one admire you if you think being paraplegic, in pain, bowel bladder problems, incontinence, pressure sores, inability to walk or weakness,sexual dysfunction,water infections, etc is only slight? i know there are worse disabilities but that is enough to be getting along with i think:)

Brassedoff

abudabi wrote: »

Slight disability? well i know many who would not agree but i for one admire you if you think being paraplegic, in pain, bowel bladder problems, incontinence, pressure sores, inability to walk or weakness,sexual dysfunction,water infections, etc is only slight? i know there are worse disabilities but that is enough to be getting along with i think:)

Yes it's a !!!!!! being in a wheelchair dealing with those issues. Good job that once in our wheelchairs we can get to those places we need for hygines needs as quick as you say. (I jest with you of course).

cozza

i have just been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and it has made my depression worse i did try to got dla ( and yes i work ) but no i was turned down i dont think people who dont have Fribro realise how painful it can be and sometimes i have to struggle on the days i am bad and the tiredness i get is well bad but i try to carry on but why dont DLA reconise it as a disabilaty ?