Cavalier King Charles in flat?

UKTigerlily

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

How are you and Chaya doing today?

Tigerlily, forgot to ask yesterday as of course the big news was re: the lump, but how is her foot? What did the vet say it was?

Also, I think if you are unsure of anything or didnt feel you got enough info from the vet yesterday, do ring them and ask questions!! Its impossible to think if what you want to ask at the time because its such a shock.

Her paw is ok, I think she said I could put something human on it if I want but I dunno what? lol (Germolene springs to mind but I forgot everything she said). I don't think the claw could be cut any further back but she said it's ok to walk her again.

Right now I daren't call cause i'm so mad at the Vet! My BPD would probably cause me to flip on her which wouldn't help anyone, just can't believe people are so heartless. They may hear it everyday but we generally can only compare it to human cancers & i've had four relatives with different ones on my Dad's side so compare it to that! How am I supposed to know if in Dogs they survive?

Chaya is ok, she's found her appetite & i'm trying not to be upset around her as she knows something is wrong but not what or if she's done it. All I keep thinking is if we found a lump it'd be biopsied or taken out within the month not ohh let's leave it until April! The net just keeps saying it can spread to the lungs within a year or two & we don't know how long she's had it (Tho maybe they can guess by the size of the lump idk)

All I can think is I want it out NOW but they all want to wait. If it comes back once out how do I know how long until it might, and if it does will it kill her?! Fortunately many have posted positive stories of mammary tumours being removed in Dogs older than her & I know she won't even be aware of the op as it'll be when spayed, but it doesn't change me feeling sick at the thought of it in there. Hopefully it's benign but the Vet seemed to think otherwise.

foreign_correspondent

Perhaps you should give it a few days then ring the vet with some questions if you feel you need to?

Dont be too mad at the vet, I used to wrk in the NHS and have seen doctors tell people some pretty heavy stuff in less than sensitive ways.. good clinical skills and a good bedside manner don't always come in the same package unfortunately...

I know this is a different scenarion, but about four years ago I went for a pre-op assesment for gallstones - and saw the doctor drawing an x on an abdominal diagram in her notes - being nosey I asked what it was and she said 'ermm..... I think I can feel a lump':eek:

I had gone alone expecting it to all be straightforward, next thing I knew I was on my way for ultrasond, told there was a 9cm mass in my abdomen, approx 1 in 10 chance it was malignant - I was in a right state.

In retrospect it wasnt dealt with in the most sensitive way possible, but I was lucky - when it was whipped out it turned out to be benign... the waiting is the awful part though.

I was in shock on that first day and felt better after I saw the consultant a week or so later and was able to ask the questions I needed answering (which in my case were mainly about my worries my innard may drop out of the big scar after the op - its funny what you worry about in times of crisis really)

Anyway, I am sorry if I have rambled, but we are all rooting for you (and Chaya) here - she has pretty much become the MSE dog on here! - I think we all feel as if we know here now!

UKTigerlily

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

Perhaps you should give it a few days then ring the vet with some questions if you feel you need to?

Dont be too mad at the vet, I used to wrk in the NHS and have seen doctors tell people some pretty heavy stuff in less than sensitive ways.. good clinical skills and a good bedside manner don't always come in the same package unfortunately...

I know this is a different scenarion, but about four years ago I went for a pre-op assesment for gallstones - and saw the doctor drawing an x on an abdominal diagram in her notes - being nosey I asked what it was and she said 'ermm..... I think I can feel a lump':eek:

I had gone alone expecting it to all be straightforward, next thing I knew I was on my way for ultrasond, told there was a 9cm mass in my abdomen, approx 1 in 10 chance it was malignant - I was in a right state.

In retrospect it wasnt dealt with in the most sensitive way possible, but I was lucky - when it was whipped out it turned out to be benign... the waiting is the awful part though.

I was in shock on that first day and felt better after I saw the consultant a week or so later and was able to ask the questions I needed answering (which in my case were mainly about my worries my innard may drop out of the big scar after the op - its funny what you worry about in times of crisis really)

Anyway, I am sorry if I have rambled, but we are all rooting for you (and Chaya) here - she has pretty much become the MSE dog on here! - I think we all feel as if we know here now!

lol poor mutt has just had her eardrops & been dragged out in the wind to go toilet so is sulking. Yeah I remember my Mum had a 20Ib Cyst removed & we were worried it was Cancer due to her age (Think she was 55 then) but it wasn't. I guess i'll just believe them that it's ok to wait & keep an eye on it to be sure it gets no bigger, then it'll come out & job done. I'm wondering tho if it could come back, how? In women don't they do a mastectomy? Can't the Vet remove all the glands or whatever?! Ah well be glad when it's out. Least she's eating again, maybe her full anal gland bad ears were painful & putting her off food

foreign_correspondent

aw bless her - she has got it going off at all ends hasnt she - poorly bum, sore ears and a dodgy lump!

I guess you need to ask the vet about the different options re. surgery... its only natural to want the best thing to be done for Chaya, and I guess you need to know if there are any different options for treatment just to set your mind at rest if nothing else - April seems such a long time away, you may feel better if you know why they are happy to leave it till then..?

I do think if they thought it was urgent they would offer you the option to get it done next week - no NHS waiting lists for dogs thank goodness!!

UKTigerlily

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

aw bless her - she has got it going off at all ends hasnt she - poorly bum, sore ears and a dodgy lump!

I guess you need to ask the vet about the different options re. surgery... its only natural to want the best thing to be done for Chaya, and I guess you need to know if there are any different options for treatment just to set your mind at rest if nothing else - April seems such a long time away, you may feel better if you know why they are happy to leave it till then..?

I do think if they thought it was urgent they would offer you the option to get it done next week - no NHS waiting lists for dogs thank goodness!!

I think cause it's apparently a slow growing one & won't spread until it's much bigger they don't feel the need to make her have two anaesthetics & ops. If it does get bigger i'll find someone to take it out sooner, but since i've had her (Almost 7 weeks) it hasn't grown at all.

Waterfalls

sorry to hear about chaya, but im sure it will all be fine, if u are worried you can always ask to have it removed sooner, or if concerne about 2 anesthetics, vets sometimes opt to place an needle into the lump an remove a few cells (called a fine needle aspirate) and send to the lab, this will tell them for sure what kind of lump it is. can also make sure the vet takes the correct margin away around the mass, which make sure all the bad cells are gone.
if u do have the lump full removed, make sure she has chest xrays aswell to put ur mind at rest

UKTigerlily

Waterfalls wrote: »

sorry to hear about chaya, but im sure it will all be fine, if u are worried you can always ask to have it removed sooner, or if concerne about 2 anesthetics, vets sometimes opt to place an needle into the lump an remove a few cells (called a fine needle aspirate) and send to the lab, this will tell them for sure what kind of lump it is. can also make sure the vet takes the correct margin away around the mass, which make sure all the bad cells are gone.
if u do have the lump full removed, make sure she has chest xrays aswell to put ur mind at rest

I don't really know what they're doing or even how much chest x rays would be or if the insurance would cover it or anything. The Vet that told me said they'd just remove it when she's Spayed & that's all I think. Don't think she can be Spayed early cause of the risk, they all seem to want to wait. Not sure if the Rescue would pay for x-rays too & nobody knows if the Insurance would cover it. Tempted to take her for a consultation with the vets that will operate next week but I think for now i'll call & ask to speak to one & see what they say about leaving it.

foreign_correspondent

I cant see why the insurance wouldnt cover x-rays and even the op if you wanted to get it done sooner?

hethmar

FC, I think lily is worrying that the insurers will say its a pre existing condition Poor girl - well, poor girls - you have had so much worry and poor old Chaya is in the wars isnt she. I do hope this is a blip and once she is spayed and sorted you will be able to relax.

Lucy had all the gland removed, she was one nipple short after the op.

foreign_correspondent

hmm, I know, but I do wonder if that could be proved or disproved, as no one really knows when it started?

I would guess a lot of conditions go undiagnosed for a long time, or are present to some degree from a very young age, even if they only become symptomatic much later...