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Well, it's the one I want to put out!Tim_Deegan wrote: »Sorry, but that is just the message that we don't want put out. The aim is to carry out a home fire safety check on all private reidential properties in the UK.
Some people may be able to do a simple DIY task like fitting a smoke detector, but you would be amazed how many are fitted wrong.
There is no reason why you can't buy ant fit your own smoke detectors. However you should still book a home fire safety check, so that they can make sure the alarms are fitted and working correctly. They can also give fire safety advice that is unrelated to the alarms.
The main aim is to cut fire deaths.
If you're happy to fund this work personally, that's fine.
If people don't know what they are doing they should employ a professional rather than expect the taxpayer to pick up the bill"Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 20100 -
Well, it's the one I want to put out!
If you're happy to fund this work personally, that's fine.
If people don't know what they are doing they should employ a professional rather than expect the taxpayer to pick up the bill
Home fire safety checks, and fitting smoke alarms actually saves council tax payers money. How much do you think it costs in council taxes each time a house is engulfed in flames ending up as a 5 pump fire, and when people are killed or injured. When a fire could have been tackled at a very early stage with very little damage, and with no injurys ar loss of life??0 -
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poppysarah wrote: »It's not an engine which comes out it's just the man who does fire safety.
I knew someone who used this service, thinking it would be just a guy in a car.
No it was the complete crew in the huge, fuel thirsty truck. All the neighbours were nosying around what the problem was with the engine parked outside her house.
Meanwhile she was making them all a cup of tea and having a good old natter about how surprised she was that they all turned up."Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 20100 -
Tim_Deegan wrote: »Home fire safety checks, and fitting smoke alarms actually saves council tax payers money. How much do you think it costs in council taxes each time a house is engulfed in flames ending up as a 5 pump fire, and when people are killed or injured. When a fire could have been tackled at a very early stage with very little damage, and with no injurys ar loss of life??
Smoke alarms don't stop fires - they alert people early to their existence so that they can make themselves safe.
How many house fires do you see that involve 5 pump fires? I hope not many because we don't even have five pumps in our town!!!
Perhaps if so much money wasn't wasted sending upto half a dozen expensive & highly trained firefighters off in an expensive fuel thirsty, heavy lorry fully laden with water, to do a job that a local handyman or electrician could do for a few quid, we might have an even better fire service that actually puts out fires and offers real fire prevention measures!
Don't even get me started on the issue of retained, part-time fire fighters that are expected to cover so many parts of the UK because there are no funds available for permanent full-time cover."Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 20100 -
How can get you from "He has no wardrobe or desk" to 6 strapping firemen drinking tea. Really!0
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Smoke alarms don't stop fires - they alert people early to their existence so that they can make themselves safe.
How many house fires do you see that involve 5 pump fires? I hope not many because we don't even have five pumps in our town!!!
Perhaps if so much money wasn't wasted sending upto half a dozen expensive & highly trained firefighters off in an expensive fuel thirsty, heavy lorry fully laden with water, to do a job that a local handyman or electrician could do for a few quid, we might have an even better fire service that actually puts out fires and offers real fire prevention measures!
Don't even get me started on the issue of retained, part-time fire fighters that are expected to cover so many parts of the UK because there are no funds available for permanent full-time cover.
If those firemen with their horror stories ensure a few more correctly fitted alarms I'm happy to pay I really don't want to be paying for the long term care for 20years+ for people with lung damage, the expensive medical care, the cost of social services, adapting their homes etc... if the firemen were free and doing nothing else why not double the number of safety checks or would you rather they sat playing cards, watching telly in the firehouse between fires?0 -
How many house fires do you see that involve 5 pump fires? I hope not many because we don't even have five pumps in our town!!!
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There was a multi-engine fire last night in cambridge only a one bed flat and a spanner put a tealight on a stereo - but it's a block of flats - large scale evacuation on mid-rise block and the problems.... a lot of people don't live in flats... we get a lot of multi-appiance attendences in the university too because a lot of the labs/hightech/research facilities have stuff like polonium, and gas cylinders0 -
barnaby-bear wrote: »If those firemen with their horror stories ensure a few more correctly fitted alarms I'm happy to pay I really don't want to be paying for the long term care for 20years+ for people with lung damage, the expensive medical care, the cost of social services, adapting their homes etc... if the firemen were free and doing nothing else why not double the number of safety checks or would you rather they sat playing cards, watching telly in the firehouse between fires?
If someone can afford to pay rent, I'm sure they can afford to pay a few quid for a local handyman/electrician to carry out the simple job work of installing a smoke alarm (assuming they are incapable of doing it themselves)
Perhaps if the fire service started charging people the actual price it costs them to turn out to do the job, like they do now rather than provide a free locksmith service that so many people used to abuse, then people wouldn't be expecting te taxpayer to pick up the bills for looking after theior property - one wich probably cost them serveral hundred thousand pound to buy in the first place but one in which they are not prepared to spend a few pounds on looking after.
It's not the taxpayers role to subsidise these free loaders, and good on the government to stop this waste of taxpayers resources. Our taxes should be targeted to to those services that people really need, not to those sitting back in their own castle swigging a beer or two whilst they get our vital services to carry out the work they themselves should be funding."Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 20100 -
barnaby-bear wrote: »
So not a house then?How many house fires do you see that involve 5 pump fires? I hope not many because we don't even have five pumps in our town!!!
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There was a multi-engine fire last night in cambridge only a one bed flat and a spanner put a tealight on a stereo - but it's a block of flats - large scale evacuation on mid-rise block and the problems.... a lot of people don't live in flats... we get a lot of multi-appiance attendences in the university too because a lot of the labs/hightech/research facilities have stuff like polonium, and gas cylinders
Did it have a smoke alarm fitted?
How many pumps would have been needed if there was a smoke alarm fitted?
How exactly does a smoke alarm prevent people from storing gas cylinders in their property?"Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 20100
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