Easyjet throwing woman off flight for 'abuse'

robt_2

greenface wrote: »

What if the crackers are home made without the bang ?

Are you allowed crackers on trains and boats with or without the bangers ?
just a thought

Then like my post actually said they would be fine.

And why wouldn't you be allowed on a train with them? You do not get security screened for rail travel. No idea if Eurostar allow them.

And here is a thought for you: Don't shoot the messenger, it just makes you look silly.

hollydays

greenface wrote: »

I could have eaten a bowl of Alphabetty Spaghetti and crapped a better answer

robt--
I don't know the actual reason (probably because they are classed as an explosive) but I don't see how anyone can answer the security questions at check-in if you haven't opened the crackers to look at what is inside.

thanks

What if the crackers are home made without the bang ?

Are you allowed crackers on trains and boats with or without the bangers ?
just a thought

just a tad touchy :rotfl:

ynot2005

Caz3121 wrote: »

I worked for many years in an airport and came to the conclusion that people had a personality change when they stepped over the door and left their brain outside.

An airport seems to be a place where logic has no place - I used to deal with abuse on a regular basis from

"But I telephoned to say I was stuck in traffic and to hold the plane for 10 mins for me so why has it gone"
(no concept of 100+ people on beard wanting to go on time or air traffic slots which, if missed, can cause tremendous delays for the flight and the rest of the day)
This would often end up in screaming matches and I remember physical violence - who was at fault? who was late?....but it would of course be the airlines fault.

Got the comments about the drugs and bombs in cases - customers would certainly be spoken to by security and police and refused travel..."but it was only a joke"....were not laughing after that

Best one was a gent who was going daft and screaming as the whole airport was closed due to weather (pea soup!) no-one could tell him exactly WHEN the fog was going to clear....who would have got the brunt of the abuse...the airline staff...deserved? think not

People are not kicked off for no reason but there is certainly a zero tollerance policy (the staff are not paid enough to take the abuse) If seeing that incident gets some other people to think about their behaviour and act like grown ups then good stuff!.....

the zero tollerance is very obvious, and travellers should be aware that airport staff will not take any abuse, and i agree with their attitude, after watching people going near on hysterical because liquids get taken away from them, and on my last trip one gentleman ran to the gate and was going mental because he was not allowed on the flight, 5 mins later the fool finally got the message that the plane had taken off and it had left before he got to the gate

i have a lot of sympathy for airport staff even though they sometimes look like they are enjoying the fiasco and are baiting the traveller

greenface

robt wrote: »

Then like my post actually said they would be fine.

And why wouldn't you be allowed on a train with them? You do not get security screened for rail travel. No idea if Eurostar allow them.

And here is a thought for you: Don't shoot the messenger, it just makes you look silly.

Thanks again robt (i thanked you for your last info too.)

so what you are saying is you are allowed to take explosives onto trains and ferries without question (car full even) and without being security checked.
But not onto another form of passenger transport even though it is screened, xrayed, checked and double checked.
Have crackers always been banned from aeroplanes if not when did the rule change.
Just a question

flowerscotland

Incisor wrote: »

Crackers have incredibly bad jokes written by alQaeda. Of course they should be banned.

I dont make up the rules huni :P

and maybe you should stop buying those specific type of crackers and giving money to terrorists.

Engadine

Airlines and their staff have right to refuse boarding to anyone who they consider unfit to travel or act in an abusive or threating manner.

I spent 11 years working as Cabin Crew for a number of airlines, at times I felt more like chief bouncer than Purser. I have been threatened, had punches thrown at me, been held up against a wall in an airport by an irate passenger and been called all the names under the sun.

I lost count of the number of people that I denied boarding to or offloaded from flights for various different reasons. In most cases it wasn't an immediate decision to do this, warnings were given but the people in question refused to listen.

Being on an aircraft at 35,000 feet with an unruly passenger is not a pleasant experience for the crew or for the other passengers who have paid their money and know how to behave, why should they have to put up with bad behaviour.

When I was working for one airline, a cabin crew member based at another airport was hit over the head with a glass bottle by a passenger, needless to say after that incident the airlines attitude changed and we became a lot tougher on the policy for offloading people.

People really do think that they can turn up at airports, board aircraft and behave in what ever way they see fit. This sort of attitude is completely unacceptable and I am glad to see airlines taking a stance against people who are abusive, threaten staff etc

Saint_Chris

well said Engadine

if the passenger gets stroppy, at not being allowed to take crackers on board, and throws them down in a bit of a fit.

Imagine being at 35 000 feet, with her, and her wanting another drink, and the air hostess tells her NO,

that would be fun.

It is all about Respect, and as a child we was always taught that you gave Respect to people, who are doing a job for you.

Engadine

Saint_Chris wrote: »

well said Engadine

if the passenger gets stroppy, at not being allowed to take crackers on board, and throws them down in a bit of a fit.

Imagine being at 35 000 feet, with her, and her wanting another drink, and the air hostess tells her NO,

that would be fun.

It is all about Respect, and as a child we was always taught that you gave Respect to people, who are doing a job for you.

Thanks Chris. I've been in many a situation with people wanting more drinks and telling them NO, not an ideal situation on an aircraft and a few times it was quite a scary situation.

I agree that it is all about respect, I was taught the same as a child but unfortunately a lot of people in this world seem to have lost respect for anyone and anything.

dexterlevi

I think Easy Jet may have been a little too harsh in taking her off the flight.A warning may have been more appropiate ie any further stroppy juivenile behaviour will result in no flight.If the evidence is clear that she did not assault the worker then her fare should be refunded.

However she only has herself to blame. Why not just accept the airlines decision.The rules are there for everyones safe passage and I would have thought a so called grown up adult should have behaved more appropiatly especialy as I would think there were kids present who may have observed this behaviour.How can we ever encourage possitive behaviour from our kids if the adult role models behave so bad.

jamescredmond

Engadine wrote: »

Airlines and their staff have right to refuse boarding to anyone who they consider unfit to travel or act in an abusive or threating manner.

I spent 11 years working as Cabin Crew for a number of airlines, at times I felt more like chief bouncer than Purser. I have been threatened, had punches thrown at me, been held up against a wall in an airport by an irate passenger and been called all the names under the sun.

I lost count of the number of people that I denied boarding to or offloaded from flights for various different reasons. In most cases it wasn't an immediate decision to do this, warnings were given but the people in question refused to listen.

Being on an aircraft at 35,000 feet with an unruly passenger is not a pleasant experience for the crew or for the other passengers who have paid their money and know how to behave, why should they have to put up with bad behaviour.

When I was working for one airline, a cabin crew member based at another airport was hit over the head with a glass bottle by a passenger, needless to say after that incident the airlines attitude changed and we became a lot tougher on the policy for offloading people.

People really do think that they can turn up at airports, board aircraft and behave in what ever way they see fit. This sort of attitude is completely unacceptable and I am glad to see airlines taking a stance against people who are abusive, threaten staff etc

yes - a good post.

jammed into a tight cabin and sitting next to a drunken, loud-mouthed abusive idiot doesn't get the holiday/business trip off to a good start.

not much fun for cabin crew, either.

that said, I've noticed a change in attitude amongst some check-in staff since the security clamp-down.

customer service has, in some of the cases I've witnessed, started to morph into high-handedness - backed up by the veiled threat of 'we can always off-load you, so just you behave'.

and this change isn't limited to the budget airlines.

last yr I flew to franfurt to meet a work commitment. my co. booked me on a BA flight. the check-in staff could easily have worn swastika uniform. a guy in front had to insist - calmly - on a 'please and thank you', whereby security was called.

I backed up the guy's version of events and expressed disgust at the staff's behaviour. after a 5 min stand-off the guy was alowed through, muttering something about a written complaint. I hope he made one.

I sympathise with any staff that has to endure abuse/intimidation, but -as always- there's 2 sides to every coin.