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  • heating-eng
    heating-eng Posts: 723 Forumite
    nickj wrote: »
    i would say that £120 for a plumber is too cheap , i know it depends on what area of the country you live in , but i charge more than that a day and i'm a painter , however i live in a very expensive area , when i started work in 1982 the guys i was working with were getting £60 a day then , 99% my work come from word of mouth or repeat business , in the last 3 years i've only lost 3 jobs that i've priced for , and 2 of them still haven't been painted to date , i've only had one customer tell me that i'm too expensive and he hadn't got a clue as to how much the materials were going to cost ofr the outside of his house .
    my wife charges £10 per hr and she just cleans houses ,that is the going rate for this area , she has no real overheads , so heating -eng may be it's time for a price hike to a realistic rate if there's the demand

    before new home owner delights us with his words of wisdom , maybe he would like to tell us what he does for a living and how much his pay is , i mean , he ace at sorting out satelite dishes , he's an ace mechanic and he what he doesn't knows about about plumbing isn't worth knowing , so unless he's earning £240k+ a year he might want to think about changing jobs and earing some real money


    I am happy to earn £120 a day. I take my time and do a good job.
    Some people will do a combi swap in one day and charge £500 labour. I would take 2days and do a very good job and then the customer is happy. I then do the odd fixed price job on the way home for around £30 or £40 and the works well for me.
    Customers in my area do not want to pay a fortune for new boilers and why should they.
    I know this will not please some plumbers but this is a money saving website.
    Always do your home work .
    Get a full detailed written quote and then get on the net and research the prices for yourself.
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    so if you charge 120 pound per day and a average day work is 8 hours your happy having 15 pound per hour? which i think is a reasonable rate, iy just goes to show not all plumbers are out to rip people off.
    Well done HE - pour another bucket on petrol on on this silly one's bonfire why don't you? Would this miserly rate (which you may be happy with but cannot possible be making a living at) be why you are looking for a job?
    Hope i am allowed to post this if not sorry.

    I am looking for full time employment in the Leeds area as a plumber if anybody knows of any jobs.

    and
    Do you have any jobs:rotfl:


    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • heating-eng
    heating-eng Posts: 723 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2011 at 7:39PM
    keystone wrote: »
    Well done HE - pour another bucket on petrol on on this silly one's bonfire why don't you? Would this miserly rate (which you may be happy with but cannot possible be making a living at) be why you are looking for a job?



    and




    Cheers

    I was looking for a job you are correct,when I left Bg and I had no work ,not really sure what that has to do with anything.
    I already have a good income from other places so I do not need to earn too much. I like to keep my hand in and give myself some pocket money.
    Everybody is different but I do not think that plumbers should be charging as much as some do, there is just no need for it.
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
  • BaldPlumber
    BaldPlumber Posts: 145 Forumite
    I was looking for a job you are correct,when I left Bg and I had no work ,not really sure what that has to do with anything.
    I already have a good income from other places so I do not need to earn too much. I like to keep my hand in and give myself some pocket money.
    Everybody is different but I do not think that plumbers should be charging as much as some do, there is just no need for it.

    I'm sorry and don't mean to be offensive, but this is staggeringly stupid!

    Most heating engineers are not doing it for pocket money, they are doing the job to support their families, pay their mortgages and are probably not quite so smug as you are, happily pottering away.

    Get an allotment or something, but do not try and deny people a decent wage for a hard job, simply because their circumstances are not the same as yours.
  • heating-eng
    heating-eng Posts: 723 Forumite
    I'm sorry and don't mean to be offensive, but this is staggeringly stupid!

    Most heating engineers are not doing it for pocket money, they are doing the job to support their families, pay their mortgages and are probably not quite so smug as you are, happily pottering away.

    Get an allotment or something, but do not try and deny people a decent wage for a hard job, simply because their circumstances are not the same as yours.

    I was responding to a question from somebody who is always giving me hassle and was not ment to sound smug.
    I stand by what I said before, I do think that some plumbers or heating engineers over charge. Not all but the ones that charge over £500 or so per day.
    I think anything up to £200 a day is fair. This is just my view as a heating engineer with 21 year experience I don,t expect all plumbers to agree.
    I went to a job where the lady had been charged £800 for a £10 part and it took the guy 2 hours, surely you would agree this is wrong.
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    edited 28 May 2011 at 8:51AM
    I was looking for a job you are correct,when I left Bg and I had no work ,not really sure what that has to do with anything.
    Consistency. DYOR.
    I already have a good income from other places so I do not need to earn too much. I like to keep my hand in and give myself some pocket money.
    Thats great for you but very naive to give the troll ammunition in this way. I'm happy that you do it for pocket money if that is what suits you but now he thinks he's got a plumber on his side that agrees that anything over over £1.50 an hour is a rip off.
    Everybody is different but I do not think that plumbers should be charging as much as some do, there is just no need for it.
    Fair point.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    edited 28 May 2011 at 8:18AM
    I was responding to a question from somebody who is always giving me hassle and was not ment to sound smug.
    Oh balls to giving you hassle - get it off your back. I ask you questions - no different to anyone else.
    I stand by what I said before, I do think that some plumbers or heating engineers over charge. Not all but the ones that charge over £500 or so per day.
    The problem here is that we are potentially confusing daily rate with hourly rate and it doesn't just apply to plumbers. They are not the same. If the going rate for a particular 20 minute job including travel and bits is £50 and the tradesman concerned manages to fit in 10 in one day then he's entitled to his £500, if he only does 1 the following day then he only gets £50. If he does nothing for the next two days he gets nothing. So are you suggesting he charges £ 20 each for the 10 he does on day one and £ 200 for the only one he does on day 2?
    I think anything up to £200 a day is fair.
    Perhaps on a day rate basis but not on an aggregated hourly rate IMHO.
    I went to a job where the lady had been charged £800 for a £10 part and it took the guy 2 hours, surely you would agree this is wrong.
    Yep - thats quite disgraceful.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • heating-eng
    heating-eng Posts: 723 Forumite
    keystone wrote: »
    Oh balls to giving you hassle - get it off your back. I ask you questions - no different to anyone else.

    The problem here is that we are potentially confusing daily rate with hourly rate and it doesn't just apply to plumbers. They are not the same. If the going rate for a particular 20 minute job including travel and bits is £50 and the tradesman concerned manages to fit in 10 in one day then he's entitled to his £500, if he only does 1 the following day then he only gets £50. If he does nothing for the next two days he gets nothing. So are you suggesting he charges £ 20 each for the 10 he does on day one and £ 200 for the only one he does on day 2?

    Perhaps on a day rate basis but not on an aggregated hourly rate IMHO.

    Yep - thats quite disgraceful.

    Cheers

    you are very much different to every body else.you seem to have a problem with me and follow me round giving me hassle and picking and quoting everything i say. i would be greatful if you do not responed to any post that i make.
    so you are saying that customers should pay for the days that plumbers are sat at home? not how i work sorry.
    X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
    Please don,t let this put you off.
  • BaldPlumber
    BaldPlumber Posts: 145 Forumite
    edited 28 May 2011 at 10:00PM
    you are very much different to every body else.you seem to have a problem with me and follow me round giving me hassle and picking and quoting everything i say. i would be greatful if you do not responed to any post that i make.
    so you are saying that customers should pay for the days that plumbers are sat at home? not how i work sorry.

    Heating-eng I did not mean to cause offence, but your post got to me a little maybe caused by two faults on my van necessitating my last 2 weeks work going straight to repairs.

    All trades are being hammered at the moment, due in no small part to customers not having any money!

    Personally I think that if a bloke cannot make a living from swapping boilers, converting systems and repairing faults - pretty basic but essential stuff - then we are ALL in trouble.

    P.S. I am also getting sick and tired of offering free consultations to prospective customers who can then quote me verbatim to friends or blokes down the pub who are happy to do the job 'cos 'they know a bit about it' obviously without the benefit of training, experience, insurance, tools or skill. Pah!
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    you seem to have a problem with me and follow me round giving me hassle and picking and quoting everything i say.
    OMG the smell of burning martyr yet again. You seem to have missed the fact that I have been agreeing with some of what you say. Actualy I don't have a problem with you as an individual at all. I do sometimes have a problem with some of what you say though. Its called discussion.
    i would be greatful if you do not responed to any post that i make.
    Can't - sorry - but you just asked me a question which I intend to answer. (see below). Anyway its a free country - put me on ignore if you want but I'll respond to any post I like ta!
    so you are saying that customers should pay for the days that plumbers are sat at home? not how i work sorry.
    No thats not what I said at all. Go read it again please.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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