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MSE Parent Club - Part 2

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  • Hi all.....I'm back after a refreshing nights sleep!!! DS went all through the night for the first time ever last night....with the help of a teaspoon of baby rice in his last bottle....BF this morning and has just left with Dh to go to my mums for a whole day...seems a lot happier and so am I....

    HV has been on the phone this morning asking why I didn't go to the clinic...plucked up the courage to tell her that I was busy and my life doesnt revolve around going to clinic. She told me that she was concerned about my mental well being and wanted me to go to mother and baby mornings. I told her that I can go to my sisters for that and that i have far too much on to be able to swan around having coffee..(have lots of livestock that need caring for when DS is asleep)..she seemed quite stunned that I stood up to her and said 'we'll discuss the issues when you next come to clinic'...told her that there was nothing to discuss and if she couldnt be supportive then I would go to the GP, make a formal complaint and ask for a new HV!!!

    She wasn't too happy and said 'we'll talk at clinic'' and hung up.....!!!!!!

    Thanks to you guys, I am not going to let the old dragon walk all over me and am taking my mother to the next clinic...well, fight fire with fire and believe me, my mother is firey and currently livid with the HV...(BTW I am in my thirties not a kid so feel a little childish but what the hell)....

    I am now going to do some washing, clean out the animals and have a cup of tea!!!

    Thanks again to everyone for their kind words!!!

    Good on you! My friend had a dragon HV and she just asked for her to be changed. Unluckily for her though she then got the one I have who is fairly harmless if somewhat inept.
  • Lu_T wrote: »
    Notenoughcash - when I was around that age my mum would take 10 mins off my 'coming home' time for every 5 minutes I was late home. At least I was in control of the sanctions, so it was pretty fair. Not sure I've got any wisdom to help you really as Imogen's only 2 (going on 22!)

    That's what I told DS I would do. I explained that I trusted him to be in time and if he was late then the next time he would have to come in earlier. If he consistently came home on time then he would be trusted to go out longer and further away. We live in a small village and he started going on the bus to the neasrest town, then we trusted him to go to Durham with friends, sometimes on the bus but last time they got a taxi (It was cheaper than the bus fare and saved catching two buses!).

    He is in Year 10 though (though one of the youngest ones in the year) and incredibly sensible. I will probably regret saying this but we've been very lucky with him and he's never pushed for anything or been cheeky or really done anything wrong ever. He even offers to make cups of tea, play with the baby and voluntarily puts rubbish out or empties the dishwasher.

    If only DD and Tom were following in his footsteps but they have been completely different to him from birth!!! I think I will have more of a battle on my hands when DD hits puberty!
  • nadnad
    nadnad Posts: 1,593 Forumite
    good for you Maximum Impact!

    little Oz is acting up big time. he's got incredibly fussy about what he'll eat - basically the only thing i can get into him is toast, or rice cakes. He eats his weetabix no problem in the morning off a spoon but the rest of the day he point blank refuses anything. i've been making him dinners and putting it onto the toast and he'll take a few mouthfuls but nowhere near what he should be taking. the amount of food i'm wasting is awful. any suggestions anyone? i've tried him on sticks of carrot, pear and melon but he puts it in his mouth decides he doesnt like the feel of it and doesnt even take a bite! at wits end.
    DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY ;)

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  • Gem_
    Gem_ Posts: 495 Forumite
    Thanks for the reply....SCBU and Bliss both say that when it comes to weaning, you go by actual age not corrected age...I tried to explain this to the HV but it would appear that she is more experienced than the most respected premature baby charity and the prem baby nurses in Special baby Care....Bliss recommend weaning after 17 weeks and little one is now 19 weeks....he's putting on an average of 13 ozs a week, which seems to me to be a little excessive!!! I have just put him on to Hungry baby in the lase week but no difference...still hand gnawing and sleeping for 1 hr after a feed and the waking screaming for more....

    Getting very confused now!!!

    :confused:

    Alex went through a terrible phase at 17 weeks when he had a growth spurt and I thought he would never stop drinking again!

    Our advice (Alex was 6 weeks early) from the Neo Natal unit was to wait until he was at least 4 months past his due date. We started weaning at 5 months so pretty much 4 months after due date - he is very small though still less than 12lb at 6 months old.

    Weaning still hasn't made him drink less or complain less about being super hungry some days with the perminantly attached to boob effect every so often. I hope it helps but just to warn you that it might not solve your problems.

    Good Luck
    Gem
  • Gem_
    Gem_ Posts: 495 Forumite
    :T :T Go you Maximum Impact :T :T

    That HV sounds even more patronising than mine - and she could win prizes!
  • lwcus78
    lwcus78 Posts: 465 Forumite
    Well done Maximum impact. I will never complain again about my HV, she has seen LO only twice in 14 weeks despite him having reflux and 6 weeks early! I'd prefer to just get on with it myself that someone trying to interfere and dent my confidence.
    The reason they advise prem babies to wean early sometimes is because babies in the womb store up iron in the last 2 months of pregnancy, so if a baby is prem they may not have had a chance to build up an adequate store. It is not an issue for formula fed babies as its supplemented with iron. Breast milk though doesn't contain iron so sometimes prem breast fed babies can become anaemic.

    Nadnad, sorry no advice here just I hope Oz will start eating again soon.

    Today, I've been trying to get LO to fall asleep by himself (without being paced/nursed). No luck. He just worked himself up and was really distressed. I have decided that I cant let him cry. I'm thinking of introducing a dummy. We tried a few months ago but he wouldn't take to it. He is breast fed so probably not used to the sucking action. Does anyone know if there are dummies which are specially designed for breast fed babbies. The last one I tried was avent orthodontic.

    Thanks, xx
  • SusanC_2
    SusanC_2 Posts: 5,344 Forumite
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    lwcus78 wrote: »
    The reason they advise prem babies to wean early sometimes is because babies in the womb store up iron in the last 2 months of pregnancy, so if a baby is prem they may not have had a chance to build up an adequate store. It is not an issue for formula fed babies as its supplemented with iron. Breast milk though doesn't contain iron so sometimes prem breast fed babies can become anaemic.
    I don't have time to find a link for you at the moment but I just want to point out that the statement that breastmilk doesn't contain iron is completely untrue.
    Any question, comment or opinion is not intended to be criticism of anyone else.
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  • Lu_T
    Lu_T Posts: 906 Forumite
    Lwcus - Imogen was bf to start with and she took a MAM dummy pretty well. She was a very 'sucky' baby though. Might just have to be trial and error though. HTH
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  • heather38
    heather38 Posts: 1,741 Forumite
    Iron
    Iron is important for the formation of blood. Different mammalian milks contain
    similar, very small amounts of iron, but there is an important difference, and babies
    switched too early to unmodified cow’s milk are at risk of anaemia. Breastmilk has a
    relatively low iron content but the iron is bound inside the lactoferrin molecule,
    which makes it easier for the infant to absorb (more bio-available). It also makes it
    inaccessible to pathogenic iron-seeking bacteria, which limits their proliferation.
    Infant formula contains 5-6 times as much iron as breastmilk.This is present as “free
    iron” (i.e. not bound with another compound ) and is therefore less bio-available and
    supports growth of iron-seeking bacteria, thus increasing the risk of gut infection in
    the infant.
    Therefore, in spite of the apparently low levels of iron in breastmilk, exclusively
    breastfed babies do get enough iron, and they are protected against iron-deficiency
    anaemia until at least six months of age, and often longer. By contrast giving a
    healthy term breastfed baby iron supplements may increase risk of infection.

    from here http://library.nhsggc.org.uk/mediaAssets/CHP%20West%20Dunbartonshire/The_Constituents_of_Breastmilk.pdf
  • Sami_Bee
    Sami_Bee Posts: 14,555 Forumite
    nadnad wrote: »
    good for you Maximum Impact!

    little Oz is acting up big time. he's got incredibly fussy about what he'll eat - basically the only thing i can get into him is toast, or rice cakes. He eats his weetabix no problem in the morning off a spoon but the rest of the day he point blank refuses anything. i've been making him dinners and putting it onto the toast and he'll take a few mouthfuls but nowhere near what he should be taking. the amount of food i'm wasting is awful. any suggestions anyone? i've tried him on sticks of carrot, pear and melon but he puts it in his mouth decides he doesnt like the feel of it and doesnt even take a bite! at wits end.
    I wouldn't worry too much Chris has gone through phases like th ever since he was weaned :rolleyes: I can't remember any specific ages they happend but it was usually if he'd been ill or teething and seemed to forgot what he liked and how to eat so I had to go back a step to mashed from whole for example and slowly introduce stuff again.
    do you have friend wit children of a similar age? Chris always ate better at the childminders when all the kids were sat together or when we are round at friends and their LOs are eating. he'll even eat stuff that his granddad is eating that he point blank refuses anywhere else:rolleyes:
    forget mummy's or daddy's boy Chris is definately a Granddad's boy!:p
    The very best is sometimes what nature gives us for free.
    3onitsway wrote: »
    I think Sami is right, as always!
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