Parking ticket in Asda car park - Is this legal, can they take me to court?

catherineblack

taxiphil wrote:

Actually I've seen plenty of "disabled" people miraculously leap out of their cars and dart across the car park. The disabled badge scheme is rife with abuse - the vast majority of badgeholders have got very minor ailments - this gives a bad reputation to the ones who are genuinely crippled.

I am in my twenties, have health problems yet look perfectly healthy. I've never applied for the disabled badge (though i may qualify) because though I'm ill, I feel that others deserve the space more. On the other hand, I sometimes am very ill and could benefit from having a disabled space, but attitudes like that put me off applying - can you imagine the comments/abuse I'd get? It's also not that easy to get a disabled badge, they are not handed out so easily. I'm not having a go personaly, but remember you don't have to be in a wheelchair/using walking stick/limping to be ill or disabled.

taxiphil

natjay wrote:

Parent and child spaces are located closer to the shops so that parents don’t have to walk their small children across the car park, thus putting them in danger of being run over by some idiot who is talking on a mobile phone and not concentrating on where they are going
Parent and child spaces are more for safety than for convenience, so if somebody values their car more than they value chid safety then it just shows what a sad person they really are

If a parent does not have the basic skills required to get their child from one side of a car park to the other without being squashed, I think a serious question mark hangs over their parenting ability. I know we live in a culture where blame is always deferred onto someone else, and you're keen to lay all the blame at the door of a mythical and hypothetical demonic car driver "on a mobile phone", but in my book it's entirely the parent's fault if their child runs out in front of a moving car.

tomstickland

I really can't believe the selfish attitude of some in this post. If you're healthy then rejoice in your good fortune rather than moaning about "why should them disabled people have it easier than me?". Imagine you suffered a serious illness or were seriously injured, then I'm sure you'd revise your opinion of disabled parking spaces.

If you've CHOSEN to be child free so you can enjoy doing whatever you want all the time, then give thanks instead of moaning about "why should those stupid people with children be given easier parking?".

Disabled and parent+child parking are two things that have a clear logic and chosing to ingore them is a promininent way of displaying your own arrogance to the rest of the world.

Best of luck to the stores and their parking companies.

Poppy9

taxiphil wrote:

If a parent does not have the basic skills required to get their child from one side of a car park to the other without being squashed, I think a serious question mark hangs over their parenting ability. I know we live in a culture where blame is always deferred onto someone else, and you're keen to lay all the blame at the door of a mythical and hypothetical demonic car driver "on a mobile phone", but in my book it's entirely the parent's fault if their child runs out in front of a moving car.

I think we live in a me, me, me society, hence the whinging on this thread about disabled and P&C spaces because they don't fit into that category or they didn't exist when they had young children.

Why do people begrudge concessions that make it easier and safer for many.

danio_2

You didn't actually answer my question: why is it such a hardship and injustice for a disabled person to wait in their car until a disabled space becomes available, like the rest of us have to do? I'm sure it doesn't cause them any physical pain or indignity. So where is the valid reason?

Therefore I can't see why there should always be this unnecessarily large number of disabled bays, making life much more of a pain for non-disabled people.

A disabled person wouldn't have to wait for a disabled bay if inconsiderate people didn't take the spaces, and in that comment i include people who have Blue Badges and SIT in their cars while someone else goes shopping.....This is against the rules of their badge.

I do however agree that getting a Blue Badge is all too easy, It is also all too easy to abuse the Blue Badge. Our local Asda has now employed a car parking attendant who patrols the Disabled and Parent & Toddler areas, They also have signs up all over the car park warning people of fines if they abuse these spaces....i HOPE OTHERS FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE asap.

You also have to remember that Disabled Bays only take up a small percentage of the total car parking spaces.

Poppy9

annoyed1971 wrote:

Not at all, just someone who is sick of being told to defer to others becuase they have a family and I don't. Why is my time or convenience seen to be less important becuase I'm not someone's mother?

I still have to pay the same amount of tax as everyone else despite making no use of many of the services I pay for and still I'm expected to be accept that I am a second class citizen with less rights.

I'm not hear for an argument or to start trouble, this just happens to be a topic that i feel very strongly about and wanted to put across my situaton, and many like me, to counter viewpoint of the previous post.

And if you never become someone's mother will you be happy for other mothers little darlings to pay taxes when you retire to fund your old age pension.

annoyed1971

Incorrect Poopy, I have a private pension and fully intend to finance my own retirement.

It's called taking responsibility for your own life......not expecting the rest of the world to make life easy for you.

JasonLVC

Interesting theory coming up.

If supermarkets put the Parent/Child and disabled bays at the furthest end of the car park, would they still be abused?.

As a parent, I wouldn't mind walking (on a pathway) some distance to the shop and I'm sure the wheelchair bound would not have an issue with going a little further. As for weather, well, it is the UK after all.

I suspect however, the spaces would still be parked in by people who don't want car dents or anyone parking near their precious car. Poor excuse really though that one.

What's the point of buying a car that you're scared to drive it and park it somehwere. If that's the case best not drive the car at all - stone chips, rain, wear and tear on the tyres and brakes, youths steeling your VW badge, keying the side of your car, etc. All of these things can happen in a carpark, road side or even on your own driveway.

IvanOpinion

natjay wrote:

Parent and child spaces are located closer to the shops so that parents don’t have to walk their small children across the car park, thus putting them in danger of being run over by some idiot who is talking on a mobile phone and not concentrating on where they are going
Parent and child spaces are more for safety than for convenience, so if somebody values their car more than they value chid safety then it just shows what a sad person they really are

Go back through this thread or possibly one similar to it and you will find some parents complaining about the stupidity of putting these spaces so close to shops .. where the traffic is usually at its heaviest. Many have openly said they would prefer tham further away from shops where there is likely to be less traffic .. they can then walk to the nearest walkway and go to the shops.

Ivan

IvanOpinion

Its like everything else somebody comes up with a good idea and then a load of people jump on the band wagon and the system gets abused. Disabled spaces were originally to allow people in wheel chairs to manouvre out of their cars .. then it expanded to people who maybe needed crutches or had trouble with walking .. then it expanded to any old Tom, !!!!!! and Harry who had a slight limp or a minor headache (for goodness sake you can buy a disabled badge at the local car boot sale for a couple of quid).

They are there for a purpose and (with one exception) I am more than happy that I do not need them.

Now if we could just ban big 4x4 from ALL car parks I would be happy

ivan